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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Bob Purton on March 02, 2008, 04:50:15 PM
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Hi Everyone. I noticed that the poll facility doesnt get used on this forum much if ever so I thought I would start one off for a bit of fun. I have listed twenty rare microcars and I thought it would be interesting to see which ones come out on top as your favourite car out of these twenty after ten days. Obviously I couldnt give too many choices and I understand that each of us would have come up with a different list. Maybe some one else can do another with a fresh list of cars afterwards. Please participate and see what conclusions we draw at the end. Cheers, Bob
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The Trident is off to an early lead with 40% of the votes! Disagree? Then cast your vote now!!!!
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Hi Bob
This is good fun.
So we are all playing the same game, do we only vote for 1 car?
john
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Hi
Anyone not sure of what the cars look like, go to :-
www.microcarmuseum.com and if you put in the name under search you will find most of the cars here.
Oh !!!!!!!!!!!! I love this game,
Is bob supplying a car for the winner??
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Yes John, I think that was the rule I set, one vote per member.
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O.K. Bob
Just wondered because it says 5 votes already, but it looks like 7 have been nominated?
This is harder than it looks.
John
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Yes, I noticed that, it seems to be two votes behind all the time. Strange! About me supplying a prize, I dont understand, its the car that will be the winner and not a person. I see that its a three way draw at the moment between the two peels and the Goggo Dart, The Dart got my vote incidently.
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now hows the voting going? come on, get yer swingometer out...... ;)
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I found it difficult to choose as the one I "want" is probably different from my "favourite".
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What is your wanted and what is your favourite, Do tell us Jim!
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Calm down Stuart, its just a bit of fun! I know the clapometer is now showing a fourway tie including Citizen Camembert [for those who were not on the retromobile weekend camembert is the pet name of Stuarts minicomtesse!] You must admit, it was thoughtful of me to include mini comtesse on the list Stuart, was it not?
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Hi
That was difficult.
I voted :- Brutch Rollera
I saw one on a website years before I got into microcars, and thought how great it was, it was probably Brutch cars that started the ball rolling for me later.
Perhaps we could have another vote later with the same cars, where you are able to pick more choices, then we could see what happened
Great game Bob
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Gotta be the Trident for me!! Just adore that shape. Nothing comes close.
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Thats tipped the trident into the lead Perry! Still, nine and a half days to go yet, anything could happen. Come on Dart, you can do it!!
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Yeah mates, hope the Peels will do the voting :) :) :)
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Can we get Terry Wogan on the commentry please.
Sarcastic whit.
Nil Pwoint !!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Have the political votes started yet or are they still singing out of tune? ;D ;)
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I see there has been some activity on the poll over night with a vote for the Inter and the mopetta, also I notice that the vote for the TG500 has disappeared so someone has changed their minds, didn't know you could do that but there you go! No one has voted for the 1950's French rarities like Rolux and de Rovin ect yet which surprises me, still its early days. I'm curious to know who voted for the Inter, it would be useful to have a short list of potential customers for if I decide to sell mine not that its imminent you understand.
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Can we get Terry Wogan on the commentry please.
Sarcastic whit.
Nil Pwoint !!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Sarcastic twit more like!
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No mention of the Replicar Cursor then?
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Do you have a Cursor then? I took some photos of them at the London motor show back in the eighties at their launch. Will dig them out. No, as I said in the first posting, I couldnt list them all, just a few cars that I personaly like, why not do another of your favourite cars when this one is finished, its difficult to please everyone. I quite like the cursor though but you must admitt they used just about the worst engine and auto box that Suzuki ever produced, also used and failed in the Bamby. One of the few cars for which an engine transplant is justifiable. I love them in the flake metalic colours!
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It was a tough decision between the Avolette, Tourette and the Brutsch cars, but I went for the Paul Valle Chanticlier, this would be the one I'd like to own.
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I dont know you very well Blob but I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that our tastes in microcars are very similar!
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Well at the end of day one the trident and Mk1 Scootacar are neck and neck but the finishing post is a long way off and its still anyones race! Have you cast your vote yet? I'm interested to know who voted for what.
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Go on then mates and post for the Trident!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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It was a tough decision between the Avolette, Tourette and the Brutsch cars, but I went for the Paul Valle Chanticlier, this would be the one I'd like to own.
Add to this the David, that looks like a Whurlitzer duke box on wheels and you probably have the 50's Dan Dare in a car thing to a tee !
FAB
;D
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It seems so Bob. I like the P. Vallee as it has such character, it
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Hi Blob. I have been fortunate enough to be able go over two Chanticliers with a fine toothed comb, one at the Bruce weiner auction and another that turned up at Story Germany for sale, unfortunately the owner wanted £4000 for it unrestored and that was seven years ago! I wanted it badly and was furious that he was being so greedy. Both cars had a very strange body material, I'm guessing it was fibre glass but without a gel coat to give it a smooth finish, you could see all the fibre strands like you can on the inside of a standard fiberglass body, I guess it was a cutting edge material back then. The cars have a ladder type square tubular chassis, a dee shaped steering implement and as you say, an Ydral 175 with gyrostarter, my favorite! I have some photos of the car I saw at Story if you are interested. Now here is a strange thing and Jean will back me up here, at the Weiner auction viewing Jean and Edwin were privileged to have a preview and an opportunity to play with the cars, I remember Ed telling me that he tried to start a whole succession of them including the ones that went for megabuck! They all had either flat batteries, no battery or were just restored to look good but with pants mechanicals until he got to the Chanticier with westinghouse gyrostarter, he cranked up the gyrostarter and it was away being the only startable/drivable vehicle in the sale! Brownie points for the Chanticlier and gyrostarter? I should say so!!!
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Yeah! I'd love to see the photos Bob, that's the thing unless you find a site where one's being resored, you don't really get to see the inner workings of the thing.
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But why can we only vote for the Mk 1 Scootacar? Is this just a beauty parade? My death wish is a Mk III Scootacar....
Andrew
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Hi, Andrew, I'm getting weary of answering this one, see Posting number one, page one of this thread for the answer. Its just a bit of fun and yes, I guess it is a beauty parade!
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At the end of day two, the situation is exactly the same as yesturday , neck and neck between the trident and the scootacar Mk1, some votes were recieved today for the paul vallee for example but the leaders remain the same. What will tomorrow bring?
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Well there is justice in the world, I see the Goggo dart has caught up over night and we have a three way tie! Will this beautiful Australian microsports car excellerate away from the two British oddballs, what? Not the result you want, well get voting then!
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hello everybody,
Perhaps i could take pictures of my father's Paul Vall
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Hello friendly Don, nice to here from you again! Its strange how false information about the cars gets repeated, finds its way into books and then is taken as fact like the thing about the paul Vallee chassis's. Like the story about the blue inter that belongs to Ken Weger in the USA, the story about how it has a 125 sans permis motor by special order of the first buyer. Yesturday I found photographs that I had taken of this car before it went to the states [ the shipper is a friend of mine and invited me to view the car before it was shipped] I have a photo of the chassis plate and it clearly says Cylindree 175. Type 175a and strangely chassis number 1175. So there may be a 125cc out there somewhere but it certainly isnt this car!
Well jigger my gyrostarter!! do you know Donald, I have just realised something about my own Inter, seeing Kens cars chassis number reminds me that Inter numbers have a number one in front of them, so kens car is really number 175, we know this because only between two and three hundred cars were made. Well when I got my car from Gilles, he told me mine was car number five. I later found 15 stamped on the body [the early ones do not have a chassis plate] and argued with him that it was the fifteenth car produced and not the fifth, I have just realised that he was correct! The number one in front is not counted, what a fool I have been !!! I will have to contact Jean and have it changed on the register or at least explain that althought the chassis number is 15 it is in fact car number five. As Del boy, would say, "Bob, you plonker!!!"
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you're right Bob, many cars had a "1" before th bereal numbers : perhaps it was the shame from the manufacturer not to be able building more cars !! How funny in the brutsch rollera of my father, which is number 1112. If only brutsch made so much Rollera, how cool it could be !!
A man 8 month ago wanted to sell me his Inter, and he says it was a 125cc, a pre-serie car. I think it is a Gilles's friend, you could ask him.
So, lucky man, you have the fifth Inter !!
I talked by mail 2 years ago with the family (i don't know how to say "Son" for a woman ) of the first owner of ken's Inter : she told me all his Remembrance of the inter as a child. Very funny to hear.
I went in my garage which will do the paintjob of the Avolette : it seems to be soon. I am so happy after 8 month of waiting ! I was so happy i could not resist to vote for the Avolette : the little car was so sad not having a vote...!!
Friendly,
Don
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You fellows think car chassis numbers are a bit odd, but you shouild see the numbers that have gone on drums I have made! I lost, then re-found some plates, some numbers were kept for drums that I never made, now i have given up any hope of achieving any logical orderand just stick any old number on, it's more for the look of the name plate! All mine start with "0", perhaps more modest hopes than some car makers!
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Ha, what will historians in the future make of your drum numbering system Marcus, a few heads will be scratched! I know that with antique marine chronometers, the makers always added numbers before the real start number so as to inspire confidence in the customers, i.e. "These people have already made a thousand of these, they must be ok!" I wonder if the same is true of vehicle manifacturers?
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Don, Why didnt you buy the Inter that you were offered?
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Just because i have not 20 000 E for an Inter bob !
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I voted for the Inter Bob,
Most people would have thought that I would vote for the TG500
I can't afford it anyway Bob
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Don, don't worry about the Inter I have seen many cars I can't afford, hows your Rolux Baby going? I'm an avid follower of your blog can't wait for the next installment. :)
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20,000 euros? Cheap at twice the price! Never mind Don, I'm sure your father will let you play with his! Also you are most fortunate to own a Avolette.
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Well its bed time on day three and its still lthe trident, scootacar and dart on level pegging, the vespa 400 got a vote today, thats a pretty little car, and also the TG500 now has two. Thanks karonut for voting Inter, the way things are going the price of an Inter could catch up with a TG500, still its one thing to ask 20.000E and another to get it! Lets hope the interest in the poll continues for the full ten days.
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Blob thank you, i am very happy to have English microcar enthusiast who read my blog. It would be a reason for me to make translation of my articles ....! Perhaps i will do ! After playing with my father's Inter of course....There is a joke in France :"You know the difference between a child and a father ? Price of toys !!"
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Hi Avolette
Good joke.
What is your link to your forum/
Cheers
John
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I think this is what you are looking for John. http://donald.over-blog.com/article-3500847.html
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Try http://donald.over-blog.com/article-3500847.html
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thats better colin, my paster keeps writing everything twice for some reason!
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Are you sure that you are not trigger happy ;)
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Quite possibly, as every good messerschmitt pilot should be!
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every microcar and scooter enthusiast is welcome in my blog, if there is some English coming on it, i will really translate my articles ! But it is only a blog, not a forum....i am not good enough with computer to create a forum !
Good day today : title for my Lambretta. YEEEEEEssss ! ;D
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Wow !!!!!!!!!
Great pictures of the Avolette.
Fantastic to see everything in bits and then being rebuilt
;)
John
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No change with the poll today, I think the novelty may be wearing off, I guess we are just waiting now for the infrequent forum users to spot it and leave there vote.
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Don, it would be an awful lot of work to translate everything to English! I actualy get along fine using translation software, obviously it doesn't translate every word but I can understand most topics posted.
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I see that no one has voted on the poll for a few days, it seems to have run its course, I would end it early if it was possible but I dont appear to have that option. Also its a shame that we have a three way draw still between the Trident, Dart and the scootacar, maybe there is someone who is still pontificating over there choice and will give us a clear winner over the next couple of days. Lets wait and see.
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Hi Bob
You could always start a 2nd poll with just the 3 joint leaders, then we might get a decider.
I like the poll idea, i think it's great fun.
Bought a new trailer to do up and transport the Heinkel to shows yesterday, so will be busy for the next couple of weeks.
john
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Thats good John. Its handy to have the choice of weather to drive or trailer to a rally, driving is in the spirit of things but not always practical, for intsance, if your family want to go with you or the car is acting up or like me lately you just feel too fragile for the journey. I try to drive to at least one rally per year but it often turns out to be two or three. There is no excuse for the local ones! Out of interest John, who did you go with for the heinkel insurance?
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Hi
I just used Footman James, because i used them years ago
It was £99 for the year fully comp with breakdown cover and agreed value insurance of £5,000
They give a 10% discount for being a club menber.
Appart from the fact that they took 7 days to get a cover note to me, i would say that in the past they were good.
i also noticed that they were the H/T OC reccomended insurer in one of the old club mags, but don't know if they still are.
John
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Thanks John, I was just curious. I'm with Footman James for my Microcar vergo, I switched to Lancaster for the Schmitt last year for some reason or an other. I think I will switch back to F/james this year though. Lancaster made an awfull fuss over my wanting to increase the agreed valuation, not impressed.
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Well Chaps , voting on the poll ends tomorrow at 4.50 pm and we dont have a winner unless we recieve some new votes or if someone changes there vote to tip the balance. Now there's a thought!
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Last chance to cast your vote today!
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I'm surprised there's no more than 25 votes cast, with 150 members on the forum. ???
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I'm suprised too
Especialy when you think I voted 8 times
John
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Well its official, collectively we dont know what our favorite car is but the most popular out of the list I chose was Trident, Dart and Scootacar. Well that was fun, who's going to do the next poll?
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P.S.
just so nobody panics I did only vote once
;D
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I voted once, for Berkeley...someone had to !
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I think you are on the wrong thread Marcus, You want favorite BRITISH microcar, Berkeley's were not on my list although I like them very much, especially the four wheelers!
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Bobbybubble....am I on the wrong thread? How did you COTTON on to that?! OK. I'll get me coat...
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Now you are really giving me the needle! BOOM BOOM!