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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Bob Purton on February 28, 2011, 09:29:56 AM

Title: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: Bob Purton on February 28, 2011, 09:29:56 AM
Whats this?
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 28, 2011, 09:37:38 AM
Dear Bob

Is this your latest restoration project?

Looks like Fiat 600 side body panels have been used.

A good brain teaser Bob

Chris Thomas
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Post by: Bob Purton on February 28, 2011, 09:39:42 AM
I wish it was Chris, I rather like it!
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Post by: Chris Thomas on February 28, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
Dear Bob

As you well know only 40 were built between 1950 and 1960 so they are quite rare, but being all GRP and with a villiers twin engine they should have survived quite well, especially in their native climate

Chris Thomas
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Post by: Big Al on February 28, 2011, 10:26:46 AM
A Fiat Divisionpla 300B from I'll be seeing yer, the forma brief Italian empirical possession in Africa. I claim my prize of Mike Shepherds only teabag from last years Mannheim and a year's subscription to Leap Year quarterly published tomorrow, the 29th Feb.
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Post by: Bob Purton on February 28, 2011, 10:40:54 AM
Nice try Al. Sorry but Mike Shephards tea bag has been used 12 times already and is too manky to offer as a prize even if you had won! I can offer some left over cheese from last years Retromobile?


Chris clearly knows but is allowing someone else to have the pleasure of winning.
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Post by: marcus on February 28, 2011, 06:01:58 PM
It looks Italian, Spanish or Hungarian. The radiator reminds me of the Spanish Pegaso trucks and David mini-car. I think Villiers engines were sold in Spain. There is a strong resemblance to FIATs 600 and Multipla. I believe SEAT were linked to FIAT and may have exchanged concepts or parts. Beyond that I am as clueless as usual on these quizzes!
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on February 28, 2011, 09:15:06 PM
If the ERF truck company had made a version of the Fiat Multipla it would have looked a lot like this
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: marcus on February 28, 2011, 09:18:08 PM
That's the other thing I was thinking of! ERF truck radiator grille, deffo!
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: Bob Purton on February 28, 2011, 10:32:47 PM
Not even the right continent Marcus.
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: marcus on March 01, 2011, 08:15:04 AM
Who's incontinent?! Right then South America, Argentina, Uruguay or Brazil, perhaps a Dinarg Multipla copy?
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Post by: Big Al on March 01, 2011, 08:25:14 AM
It looks Italian, Spanish or Hungarian. The radiator reminds me of the Spanish Pegaso trucks and David mini-car. I think Villiers engines were sold in Spain. There is a strong resemblance to FIATs 600 and Multipla. I believe SEAT were linked to FIAT and may have exchanged concepts or parts. Beyond that I am as clueless as usual on these quizzes!

Now you SEAT now you don't. Hispanio Villiers liquid cooled unit in a Bond. Just put two portholes in the wings to let the head poke through on lock. Its another nutty mod from Carlos Fandango.
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Post by: Peelpower on March 01, 2011, 09:34:15 AM
Not even the right continent Marcus.


Portugal ?  :)
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Post by: Big Al on March 01, 2011, 09:42:31 AM
Is Portugal a continuant?  Sorry easy target.
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Post by: Bob Purton on March 01, 2011, 08:12:53 PM
According to this period ad its a Joseso by I.A.M.A.  of Argentina.  Looks like Chris was the only one who had the answer.
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Post by: marcus on March 01, 2011, 08:23:48 PM
A new one on me, well done Chris. At least I got the continent AND country 2nd go!
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Post by: Bob Purton on March 01, 2011, 08:39:09 PM
Yes well done Marcus, which would you have for the second prize, the used teabag or a piece of whiffy cheese? :D :D
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Post by: marcus on March 01, 2011, 08:51:53 PM
Whiffy Cheese any day! A friend brought some back from Switzerland recently, very smelly, but apparently good grilled.....

so.....


....I sliced sweet spudtatoes 1 cm thick, boiled 2 mins, fried till starting to brown, then covered in whiffy cheese and grilled till the cheese was nice and frilly. nom nom nom.
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Post by: Chris Thomas on March 01, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
Dear Bob

The car was built by Jose' Maria Rodriguez and is called a Joseso Monovolumen, the literal translation is Josephs Van.
Before this model was built he built a jeep type body on a tubular chassis which was the prototype for this model. By 1960 no further cars were made. 40 cars in 10 years would suggest that it was not exactly a high speed production line. The bodies were all GRP and as I have said the engine was a 250cc Villiers twin with a 4 speed gear box.

Chris Thomas
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Post by: Bob Purton on March 01, 2011, 11:28:11 PM
Yes, I read the same article. Funny how cars, in this case jeep are always pictured in ads being held up in the air up by hefty factory workers. Either that or being stood on by as many factory workers are can find space on the bodywork.
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Post by: Big Al on March 02, 2011, 09:19:41 AM
Root longed to be promoted to standing on the cars but got transferred to the Simonite Donkey carrying service with Milburn instead.
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: Chris Thomas on March 02, 2011, 09:20:11 AM
Dear Bob

Funnily enough nobody has ever asked me to stand on their vehicle body to show how strong it is!!!
Now there is a challenge. or a world record waiting to be broken

Chris Thomas
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: marcus on March 02, 2011, 09:29:23 AM
When I used my Drum Car at Rochester Sweeps Festival I neded up with 4 passengers on it going round the bumpy castle grounds. If the frame had bent or twisted at all it would have been very hard to separate the sliding joints, but because of the triangulated structure everything stayed put. It was its first outing, so I was very worried it would not dismantle and fit back in the car. It was only meant to carry one!
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Post by: Jonathan Poll on March 02, 2011, 10:01:28 AM
New picture (http://www.auto-historia.com.ar/Fotos/Joseso/Joseso_Monovolumen.jpg)
And now... What's this?
(http://multiply.com/mu/melbury/image/2:peelcars/photos/15/600x600/1/Peel-type-1a-front.JPG?et=pheXhihXwfzi5h56CJx8oQ&nmid=127926817)
(http://peelcars.multiply.com/photos/album/16/Peel_type_1a_rear.JPG#photo=1)

I know ;) I guess a few of you know.

Hint: My dad used to have a car of the same make!
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: Bob Purton on March 02, 2011, 02:06:22 PM
Would it be a Zeta prototype?
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: Bob Purton on March 02, 2011, 02:13:42 PM
Chris, you can forget any ideas about standing on any of my cars! Same applies to big Al!!  I think Marcus on the other hand could quite safely trampoline on Thumpers sunroof! :D
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Post by: marcus on March 02, 2011, 02:27:50 PM
 ;D

How about Russon?
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Post by: richard on March 02, 2011, 05:53:21 PM
is it a micro ?it looks  a bit like one of those body kits to put on your standard triumph chassis . cant tell lhd or rhd and usually the wheels can give it away but i dont recognise them either
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Post by: Bob Purton on March 02, 2011, 06:43:47 PM
They look like Goggo hubs?
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Post by: Jonathan Poll on March 04, 2011, 12:34:03 PM
New picture (http://www.auto-historia.com.ar/Fotos/Joseso/Joseso_Monovolumen.jpg)
And now... What's this?
(http://multiply.com/mu/melbury/image/2:peelcars/photos/15/600x600/1/Peel-type-1a-front.JPG?et=pheXhihXwfzi5h56CJx8oQ&nmid=127926817)
(http://peelcars.multiply.com/photos/album/16/Peel_type_1a_rear.JPG#photo=1)

I know ;) I guess a few of you know.

Hint: My dad used to have a car of the same make!

Times up.

It is in fact a Peel.
It's the type 1.
Here are all the photos
(http://multiply.com/mu/melbury/image/2:peelcars/photos/14/600x600/1/Peel-type-1-shell-for-Buckler.JPG?et=4oPDhg5wEVtjLlRnfLxudA&nmid=127926789)
(http://multiply.com/mu/melbury/image/2:peelcars/photos/15/600x600/1/Peel-type-1a-front.JPG?et=pheXhihXwfzi5h56CJx8oQ&nmid=127926817)
(http://multiply.com/mu/melbury/image/2:peelcars/photos/16/600x600/1/Peel-type-1a-rear.JPG?et=HmrBFRWVJ68MHp5cjHbqJQ&nmid=127926842)

Not a microcar though, sorry for spamming the forum ;)
http://peelcars.multiply.com/photos

Now, what's this car? A bit more obvious, well, to me it is ;)
I will give more photos soon, if you guess the make, I will put up the full size photo, because the one here is cropped, there is normally a car next to it.
I erased some of the other car, just so you can't cheat ;)
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8370/epson005.jpg)
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Post by: Big Al on March 05, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
The car was built by Jose' Maria Rodriguez and is called a Joseso Monovolumen, the literal translation is Josephs Van.
Before this model was built he built a jeep type body on a tubular chassis which was the prototype for this model. By 1960 no further cars were made. 40 cars in 10 years would suggest that it was not exactly a high speed production line. The bodies were all GRP and as I have said the engine was a 250cc Villiers twin with a 4 speed gear box.

I would be interested to know if there was use of Fiat panels in this car at the beginning as it is so Multipla/600 in some areas. The Multipla was pretty slow so the miniature version with a Villiers in it kind of works too. To round it off the back looks like a London Taxi so the designer might have been a Taxi fan! An interesting machine which I was not aware of.

The Peel was a study on a Ford Special theme I believe. Then ran with the idea of a sports car and then revisted the idea of limited production/kit cars with the Peel Viking, which I have owned. The Viking was a good car but unfortunately a bit late onto the market I think.

I know the next car too.
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: Bob Purton on March 05, 2011, 11:24:15 AM
The Joseso was a new one on me too. I just stumbled across it whilst searching a motorcycle site.

Chris, how about a RCN article on this one?
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Post by: Jonathan Poll on March 05, 2011, 11:49:04 AM
Well, here is a BIG tip, you can tell it's a Nobel. But what model? Hahaha...
I will say whenever I want to ;)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7282/epson005b.jpg)
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/7496/img084z.jpg)
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8602/10329538.jpg)
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4204/naside.jpg)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6062/sportyz.jpg)

Good luck!
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Post by: Peelpower on March 05, 2011, 01:00:05 PM
Normally i would name it a 1962 Nobel pick up, but the nose seems not appropriate to me.
I wonder who knows what in fact it is !
 ;)
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Post by: Big Al on March 06, 2011, 10:56:35 AM
Contrary to one picture it is not a Fairthorpe Atom!!!
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Post by: richard on March 06, 2011, 11:32:18 AM
think you must have misread the picture al . those atom like objects are actually an arrangement of mirrors - Mod style like a period scooter -arent they ?
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Post by: Jonathan Poll on March 06, 2011, 08:08:04 PM
Times up! It is in fact a Nobel Sporty.
It was a 1958 prototype, built by York Noble Industries. That was used for the Nobel Vicky idea.
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Post by: Big Al on March 07, 2011, 09:17:28 AM
King Albert mirror stack for your Mod machine. I like it.

Are the bubble cars still in the base of the Atoma with the MIni? Last time I was there you could not go in all the Electrons/Neutron as you used to be able too.
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Post by: marcus on March 07, 2011, 08:02:08 PM
Interesting TV program about atomic physics recently. Between each atom and the orbits of all the things orbiting it there is a (relatively) vast amount of nothing. If you were to take all the "nothingness" out of the entire human population of Earth, the remaining "somethingness" would be the size of a sugar cube. We are but dust!
Title: Re: Time for a new Mystery microco competition.
Post by: richard on March 07, 2011, 11:45:35 PM
i am ferrous oxide mainly  ;)
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Post by: Big Al on March 08, 2011, 08:04:43 AM
Interesting TV program about atomic physics recently. Between each atom and the orbits of all the things orbiting it there is a (relatively) vast amount of nothing. If you were to take all the "nothingness" out of the entire human population of Earth, the remaining "somethingness" would be the size of a sugar cube. We are but dust!

Do not tell Network Rail and friends!