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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Jonathan Poll on September 30, 2011, 11:11:00 PM

Title: Brutsch
Post by: Jonathan Poll on September 30, 2011, 11:11:00 PM
Ok, here it is as a new topic...
http://donald.over-blog.com/article-19361927.html

That site has a load of info. The creator of the site actually found 2 avolettes, and has one of the roignial reciepts that has nice info on it!

Here is a pic I found on the internet then sent it to someone.
(http://a6.idata.over-blog.com/500x331/0/15/83/56/homemadecars-24.jpg)
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on October 01, 2011, 12:04:08 AM
Here's a link to the site with that picture.

http://englishrussia.com/2011/09/19/the-exhibition-of-soviet-home-made-cars/ (http://englishrussia.com/2011/09/19/the-exhibition-of-soviet-home-made-cars/)

I see the exhibition also included that microcar that swims which was on the forum a while back
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: richard on October 01, 2011, 12:30:32 AM
confused now is jonathans blue car russian homemade , bruetsch avolette or tourette ? you really cannot tell   ;)
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on October 01, 2011, 12:57:36 AM
confused now is jonathans blue car russian homemade , bruetsch avolette or tourette ? you really cannot tell   ;)

I don't know, but searching for other pictures of the none-brutsch subcar led me to the Museum of retro-cars in Taganskiy, Moscow.

http://auto-retro-museum.ru/gallery/g15 (http://auto-retro-museum.ru/gallery/g15)

Looks to have some interesting microcars amongst it's other exhibits This is a C3A invalid vehicle and another three-wheel thing
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 01, 2011, 11:32:47 AM
confused now is jonathans blue car russian homemade , bruetsch avolette or tourette ? you really cannot tell   ;)

Well of course you know a lot more about brutsch then me, but isnt it easy looking at the headlights?

JP
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: richard on October 01, 2011, 12:38:12 PM
not to me :-\ 
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Big Al on October 01, 2011, 01:24:54 PM
Here's a link to the site with that picture.

http://englishrussia.com/2011/09/19/the-exhibition-of-soviet-home-made-cars/ (http://englishrussia.com/2011/09/19/the-exhibition-of-soviet-home-made-cars/)

I see the exhibition also included that microcar that swims which was on the forum a while back

Its Herge again.
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: richard on October 01, 2011, 04:54:50 PM
reading about ali touretts now TinTin all very confusing  ???
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 01, 2011, 07:14:04 PM
not to me :-\ 
I wold have thought it was an Avolette seing the middle light ?

One thing thats weird is that it doesnt seem to hasve any cable holes, couild it have been an unused shell?
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on October 02, 2011, 12:12:35 AM
Here's another pic
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: richard on October 02, 2011, 12:22:50 AM
having looked again the fact that it has a central light is avolette like , but the shaping is not . the twin headlights are totally unlike a bruetsch or avolette . so still none the wiser .

unfortunately rusty i find your link even more unreadable than big als postings - how do you find your way around a RUSSIAN website? 
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 02, 2011, 10:13:53 AM
having looked again the fact that it has a central light is avolette like , but the shaping is not . the twin headlights are totally unlike a bruetsch or avolette . so still none the wiser .

unfortunately rusty i find your link even more unreadable than big als postings - how do you find your way around a RUSSIAN website? 

Uhh... Aren't the twin lights custom? I would have thought the guy who modded it would have done those lights. Loads of people make fibreglass parts to modify there cars in the old days.
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: richard on October 02, 2011, 11:14:43 AM
sorry jonno but nothing like any brutsch design i have ever seen - it actually more resembles a nobel pick up with an extra central light - all be it un wired
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Big Al on October 02, 2011, 11:21:22 AM
It is a car with a tummy button, is all, They are normally underneath but this car was probably owned by a sunbathing wealthy Frenchwoman into face lifts.Either that or it is Italian market and had a whacking great big horn mounted in the middle!
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 02, 2011, 07:20:05 PM
sorry jonno but nothing like any brutsch design i have ever seen - it actually more resembles a nobel pick up with an extra central light - all be it un wired

you can tell that it has been severly modified... The middle part has been chopped and made up, headlights probably arent original, so it must be an Avolette...
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: richard on October 02, 2011, 07:22:32 PM
come on lad - use t'technology put them up side by side but i just cant see it at all
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 02, 2011, 08:55:23 PM
come on lad - use t'technology put them up side by side but i just cant see it at all

First of all before I forgtet... Isnt the steering bar the wrong way round?  ;D
(http://www.autopasion18.com/IMAGENES-LINKS-DE-INTERES-EVENTOS/20090606-MAN004-Avolette-04.jpg)

Now...

Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: richard on October 02, 2011, 09:04:47 PM
well done but to me theres no doubt . i dont think theres anything in common between the two at all . it is more fulda/nobel like though.
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 02, 2011, 09:31:14 PM
well done but to me theres no doubt . i dont think theres anything in common between the two at all . it is more fulda/nobel like though.

Well I agree that its fulda'ish, but thats only because of the custom headlights.

I'm not gonna argue but I still think its a modded avolette ;)
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Bob Purton on October 02, 2011, 09:32:55 PM
"First of all before I forgtet... Isnt the steering bar the wrong way round?"  

No Jonathan, thats the position of the bar with the wheels at full lock,  as you cant see the wheels in the photo you wouldnt know that. You see the Inter is not like the schmitt which has gokart steering, Inters have a rack and pinion so its not as direct, hence more travel of the steering bar is needed.
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Bob Purton on October 02, 2011, 09:41:34 PM
I cant see any fulda connection at all. It looks like the Brutch,  it has the same sticking out mud gaurds and rear air scoops but somebody has chopped the body about by fitting a door plus has grafted on the pair of headlight mouldings whilst leaving the original center one in position. Simples!
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: richard on October 02, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
nope totally different mudguards , central headlamp and side of the cockpit. simple  :)

oh and by the way changed it into a four wheeler whilst widening the shell to bring the rear set of wheels in line with the front . looks about 3' longer than an avolette too. you forget the size of avolettes - they are tiny , and this car isn't
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Bob Purton on October 02, 2011, 10:45:24 PM
If you look closely they have stuck little rear fender on the sides to cover the rear wheels,  my guess is that some one has modified it to drop onto the chassis of another car. Perspective can be decieving when you can just see the front wedged in between two other small cars. Do we know which country the picture is from?
Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on October 03, 2011, 12:53:35 AM
The blue car was on show at the “Oldtimer-Gallery” exhibition, September 15-18 at the Crocus Expo Centre in Moscow.

Title: Re: Brutsch
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 03, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
I cant see any fulda connection at all. It looks like the Brutch,  it has the same sticking out mud gaurds and rear air scoops but somebody has chopped the body about by fitting a door plus has grafted on the pair of headlight mouldings whilst leaving the original center one in position. Simples!

At last, someone else who knows what I'm saying ;)

The wings are a bit different, but not completely different. Just the cutout I htink