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General Category => Microcar News => Topic started by: Stuart Cyphus on December 06, 2011, 12:02:49 AM
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...and what did we discover? :)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z211/stuartcyphus/Thefirstpublicitypictures1.jpg)
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Ooh, a barnfind Stuart, and in such a good shape ! Congrats !!!
Anyway thank you very much for all the number plates. Yours should arrive soon
Ferdi
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A car in Oxfordshire that has not been in my van, on my curtilage or otherwise subject to my intervention at some point. This cannot be allowed.
Still waiting my appointment as Her Majesties Inspector of Sheds, with rights of access to any shed in the land and compulsory purchase orders in the interests of our historical integrity forming a freely viewable public collection on the Shant Isles.
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Great find Stuart. :o
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any more pics of the Invacar?much more interesting than those common peels,seems like everyone on here owns one (or a replica.....) ;D
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Well done Stuart. Don't forget to let Alastair have the details so that you can have a RUM NUMBER. I believe it will be the first genuinely acknowledged replica Peel to receive one. Jean
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pardon jean ? surely you aren't leaving it like that ???
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Well done Stuart. Don't forget to let Alastair have the details so that you can have a RUM NUMBER. I believe it will be the first genuinely acknowledged replica Peel to receive one. Jean
How about CKH 728B, my dad's old peel, didn't you tell my dad it was a Carter Replica?
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How did you end up with such a nice registration number Stuart? I assumed it would be a Q plate?
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its not on the dvla database and as stuart isnt known for actually driving i suspect he may have just found a nice plate from the many under his bed. :D
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forgive me for being so stupid :) i assumed you had found an original p50 - obviously i am not the only one - HUGE DISAPOINTMENT FOR ME . sure you are happy though ;)
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its not on the dvla database
CYC 3C is on the DVLA. Hunt a bit harder & think round the corner. ;)
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What make of engine was used Stuart? It looks grand!
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In print under the picture with other vehicles it says "2011 Peel P50 replica (Andy Carter)"
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yeah i know stuarts interests some anyway ;) but that wasnt a caption its just his usual bit. it also says wrigley (but that wasnt there ) stuart did put " discovered " hence confusion by me , and others
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would be fun if Stu put some more pics up,then rather than explain it we could all have a look and try and work it out ourselves lol
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...and what did we discover? :)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z211/stuartcyphus/Thefirstpublicitypictures1.jpg)
Stop teasing us... I know I do sometimes with Messerschmitts and Scootacars I found in a barn, the schmitt engined "coffin", etc, but we want more pictures lol
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It's not a Peel, it's an AC. ::)
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It's not a Peel, it's an AC. ::)
I never said it was a Peel ;)
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Well the DVLA don't call it a Peel ;D. The do state the colour as cream but I would say it looks more like Daytona White.
Rob, what does AC stand for ?, Alternative Car, Andy Carter, Another Copy, Awful Crap ;D
Well done Stuart, another major achievement, enjoy.
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Rob, what does AC stand for ?, Alternative Car, Andy Carter, Another Copy, Awful Crap ;D
Young man, you know as well as I, that it stands for Amazing Creation. ;D
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what does AC stand for? , Awful Crap ;D
Just wait til everyone see's what some of it is going to be made out of. ;) ;D Remember that iconic quote from me earlier in the year: "Dexion & Dulux works wonders"...
Meanwhile, I know all of you are champing at the bit to see more pics & read all about it, but alas the very next day after "it" (Grant's correct, CYC 3C isn't a Peel on the DVLA...) arrived, I've been put on 14-hour days at work until at least the end of this week which is somewhat limiting playtime with the new toy, but here's a second pic to cast to the assembled crowds. :)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z211/stuartcyphus/Thefirstpublicitypictures2.jpg)
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Wasn't there a saying, "Say Dulux to your decorator" ? ???
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I can see the dexion at the ready hanging up in the car port, are you going to but those big tyres on it as well? :D It looks pretty nice as it is. Your dad looks tickled pink too.
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Rob, what does AC stand for ?, Alternative Car, Andy Carter, Another Copy, Awful Crap ;D
Young man, you know as well as I, that it stands for Amazing Creation. ;D
Animated Cyphus?
Alternating Construction sounds plausible as it would seem it is to metamorphose over time and thus requires a non defined name to suit. Might be a trike this week, a half track next month or a cyclemoter 6 month later. Why tie yourself down to one design like the concours type chappies. Could it be the Peel Dexion Estate along the lines of the Morry Minor Woody? Only time will tell and no gathering of unsuspecting Microcars will be safe from the attack of the Type 70 towed AC P50 if things work out OK.
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How long before we see a stretched P50 to provide a little bit more leg room, or a 3 wheel drive all terain model.
Chris Thomas
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I hope the rear number plate fitting is not indicitive of the general build quality!!
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I hope the rear number plate fitting is not indicitive of the general build quality!!
The torque of the drill moved the car during mounting. One of the hidden problems of lightweight machinery. It will be adjusted to horizontal via the suspension setting - Stuart carrys his wallet in the right pocket.
Stuart seems strangely resistant to my idea he should start a taxi service round Witney using his vehicles.
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Stuart seems strangely resistant to my idea he should start a taxi service round Witney using his vehicles.
Alas every vehicle I've ever owned has been only single-seaters. If I started a taxi business the only place the punters could sit would either be the roof or my lap! Indeed several of mine haven't even had roofs, so that leaves my lap.
Actully, with some of the sorts round here, that's not a bad idea... ;D
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Mmmmm, Nice! :-* ;D
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How long before we see a stretched P50 to provide a little bit more leg room, or a 3 wheel drive all terain model.
Chris Thomas
That is called the Peel rucksack or the four wheel drive version powered by two Sherpas, and we are not talking BL just BS.
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Stuart seems strangely resistant to my idea he should start a taxi service round Witney using his vehicles.
Alas every vehicle I've ever owned has been only single-seaters. If I started a taxi business the only place the punters could sit would either be the roof or my lap! Indeed several of mine haven't even had roofs, so that leaves my lap.
Actully, with some of the sorts round here, that's not a bad idea... ;D
Lap dancing business and a Taxi business. Very enterprising. Might I suggest a Bumper Car. Has a poll for the lap dancer to swing on and the right type of name to bring the punters in. Wrigley, Peel or Bumper car and dancer, sir. OAP special deal, Ariel 3 and a cat in the basket!
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Has a poll for the lap dancer to swing on
There you go Jonathan, We've found a job for you... ;)
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Has a poll for the lap dancer to swing on
There you go Jonathan, We've found a job for you... ;)
'Are friends electric?' Tubeway Army. Actually those poll/pick up things have a proper name, which I forget. It's not Jonathan.
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Has a poll for the lap dancer to swing on
There you go Jonathan, We've found a job for you... ;)
hmmm... More likely for you ;)
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Nick Poll, Dan Poll, Jonathan Poll, Lapdance Poll, Opinion Poll, Poll P50 ... it's another Pollish Invasion!
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Nick Poll, Dan Poll, Jonathan Poll, Lapdance Poll, Opinion Poll, Poll P50 ... it's another Pollish Invasion!
Nope, they havent started invading France yet ;)
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Why the AC badge on a Peel with a Honda motor?
Sure looks different than my Petite's badge. Is it from an AC Invalid Carriage?
Have you run your pretty P50 much yet? What is it like to drive?
The car's a genuine Andy Carter, so the AC badge seemed much more appropriate to me. ;D Look closely & the automobliests amongst us will see that it's a slightly modified AC Delco badge. It was either that or an AC/DC logo & that might confuse people all the more... ;) On the same subject, the AC invalid carrages used exactly the same brass-plated badge as the Petite & big cars.
Mine hasn't ran under its own power yet, indeed, the front brakes were only fitted yesterday (Saturday) & there is one final bit of welding to do to finish the steering. The engine, though brand new, seems to have dropped something in the crank or bore, as the engine rotates half a turn forward & half a turn back & encounters an obstruction. Its sat on the bench awaiting botherance to open it up to see what, where & why. The first burst into life may yet be on the lawn at School House Farm.... 8)
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Which ATV's wheel bearing, brake and stub axle assembly did you weld to Mr. Carter's 2 inch long bronze bushed king pin axis tube?
Where did you source your wheels and tires, and what size are they?
Have you tried turning your engine upside down with the spark plug unscrewed while cranking an shaking it? How about having a peek inside the cylinder with a bore scope before disassembling the unit?
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I wonder if its been assembled with the valve timing out and the piston it hitting a valve? Just a thought. Too long a reach spark plug?
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I wondered if it was a two-stroke that has had a piston ring rotate so that one end jams in the exhaust port - as that happened to me one time.
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Interesting observation- but no Honda 2 strokes.
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Not true I'm afraid Steven. Admittedly most Honda's are four stroke but in Europe we have many mopeds, one of which is a Honda Express with its two stroke engine. Its unlikely though that Stuart it using one of these as he says its a new engine and the Express is getting long in the tooth. I would guess its a chinese Honda copy? Put us out of our misery Stuart.
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Thanks for the correction.
Was ther ever a Honda 2 stroke imported to the U.S.?
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I found this on the Honda Express so the answer is yes.
"The Honda motorcycle corp. of Japan released the Honda Express (NC50) to the North American market in 1977. This new bike was designed to enter the large market for scooters that developed following the 1973 oil crisis. As such it came with a fuel-efficient single-cylinder two-stroke engine. It was also designed to be simple to operate, as many owners would be inexperienced with or intimidated by larger, more complex motorcycles. Honda accomplished this by using a fully automatic transmission and a small oil pump to self-mix the Express's oil and fuel, thus eliminating the need for premixing"
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The engine, though brand new, seems to have dropped something in the crank or bore, as the engine rotates half a turn forward & half a turn back & encounters an obstruction. Its sat on the bench awaiting botherance to open it up to see what, where & why.
This engine is appropriate for the car as it is not only the non original engine but not a Honda engine either just one that looks like it. A sort of double bluff. My only concern with this is that some of this Chinese stuff is of pretty poor quality. I know several chums who bought motorised skateboards and minibikes. In most cases these died after 10 to 20 hours use. They would have been better to put the minimal but not insubstantial asking price of the bikes toward a real version and got something that not only worked well but could potentially hold its value. The true value of these imported toys is to see the piles of split down ones at jumbles that have suffered any form of damage on shipping. It is more lucrative to sell off the few items from them for a return, covering costs, than to repair them for retail as new machines in there entirety. That tells me they are crap and someone is making a lot of money.
Not familiar with the type of engine but if it has not been opened, plug out etc. and played with then fav is a stuck valve or bust/bent valve spring if made of case hardened cheese and left in compression for a year. Compression test. If it has been left on an angle with oil in it then it might be hydro-locking as the oil has got passed the rings. Should find that exiting the valves if turned over at the right angle and turned or with plug out upside down.
Still got my real Peel engine etc if you get stuck. That would be a triple bluff!
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I agree about the Chinese bike stuff. A pal of mine bought a minimoto and after a few prods of the kickstart the shaft snapped off! Baring in mind that this part should last out the life of the machine this says volumes about the quality of the rest of it. Another pal has a Chinese Monkey bike which soon developed a neutral in between every gear making it too frustrating to bother riding. The stories are endless. A guy in the moped club bought a 125 bike and bought another just for spares, he soon found out that he really needed at least three! As you say, better off putting the money towards a real one. Obviously quality will vary from make to make so lets hope the Evans have sourced a decent one for there Bamby's.
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Marketing this rubbish is an own goal for Chinese products. I already look to see if stuff is made there. If it is and I cannot verify the quality then I do not buy it. If they send cars here the same will be the case. However there are enough people without caution to think they are getting a bargain I suspect.