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General Category => Microcar News => Topic started by: Jim Janecek on December 14, 2011, 01:32:00 AM
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Who knows anything about this story (http://tinyurl.com/7my29hm)?
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Is this the repeat of the one I asked about last year? Or is this a new rumour?
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Not sure but wouldnt it be great if it were true!!
Bockenem (am). The name of the patron is not known, his goal: He wants to save the car museum in Störy now and bought the entire collection. Thus, the museum re-opens, the city must also make their contribution Bockenem. You will operator, managing the respective mayor of the town, and 40 000 € must be budgeted to compensate for any deficit.
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I've got some seasons greeting from Otto and Marianne the Day before yesterday. It was also mentioned:
No news of the Museum yet"
On the other hand, the regional daily of Hildesheim wont tell us a lie.
I will keep my ears open, or rather i give Otto a buzz next week !
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Not sure but wouldnt it be great if it were true!!
Bockenem (am). The name of the patron is not known, his goal: He wants to save the car museum in Störy now and bought the entire collection. Thus, the museum re-opens, the city must also make their contribution Bockenem. You will operator, managing the respective mayor of the town, and 40 000 € must be budgeted to compensate for any deficit.
I am assuming this is a translation of a report in the Bockenem Bugle/Hildesheim Herald or whatever the local paper is called. Either that or Bob's been glueing something together with the window shut again.
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:D Its not the glue Al, its the mercury gilding!
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My Christmas card from Otto and Marianne states 'we still have all our cars and we are keeping them polished' Jean
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sorry i too couldnt work out bobs post ???
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Well as I dont speak German the goolge translation tools is all I have, its not perfect but you still get the gist of it.
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right got it - sorry didnt know it was a translation - verrry interesting :)
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The Goggomobil board is also lit up with discussion about this.
They seem more interested in whether they can hold a meet on the grounds though.
http://www.goggomobil.com/forum/showentry.php?sNo=42924
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To everybody who's interested in.
Otto Künnecke, landlord of the museum called me this afternoon. The published article is a bit euphoric meant, but it doesnt seems to be to bad, hopefully we are all back soon. Fingers crossed mates
Gonne keep you informed of what the future will bring. Anyway, cant resist to go back to this beloved place, coz Störy means to me the one and only place to meet all the good mates
Ferdi
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I never understood quite what problem Otto ran up against in terms of local opposition. The simple explanation given was that a local 'councillor' or appointed official with enough power decided to make things a bit difficult at the Museum. Otto is a farmer not a museum curator first and foremost. Therefore the drift to closure to the public. THat is probably a far to simple an explanation.
Aside from this, for the event, I believe he was disappointed that his Rally changed. It went from friends driving microcars to the event where they gathered as friends once every two years as Ferdi says. Otto enjoyed acting as host and spoiled the Brits who drove over hugely. Once you had proven your metal he would allow use the Orchard on tours over, even during the harvest. Latterly it changed to less driving and more trailing but worse became more of a meat market for collectors who were even happy to strip on loan exhibits from the museum. The last Story was a long way from those meetings camping in the orchard.
Maybe now there is some appreciation locally that they have an asset and there is a will to attempt to get it functioning again. That does not mean the collection has changed hands but maybe there is a move to alter the funding/management so it can open. Maybe the person who had a problem with it in the locality has moved on.
Would a running museum mean a rally again. Well given Otto owns all the land around it would need his approval beyond a driving visit from somewhere else or as a meet up without to many support vehicles as space would be limited. Who knows. Certainly the chance of good news is something to be hoped for.
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Here is my translation:
'Although the identity of the sponsor remains anonymous, his plans are known: He wants to save the Microcar Museum in Störy and has now purchased the complete collection. However, for the museum to be re-opened, the town council in Bockenem needs to make a contribution too. It will run the museum, with the mayor being the managing director. For this purpose the council budget needs to allocate EUR 40000 to break even in case of a deficit.'
My opinion: It sounds like good news, although I have to hang my head in shame as I have never been to Störy. In what way is the article optimistic? Has the town council not agreed to this? In which case the purchaser may get the strop and do the unthinkable. I hope not.
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Hey Ferdi, Does this mean we will have a rally at Story again ? It's the place to go for all true enthusiasts. like we did in the old days. They should ban camper vans though. Nick.
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Hey Nick,
we have to await what happens. Of course i asked Otto this question, he left the question unanswered.
I remembered him 2014 would be the 40th anniversary of the museum, and i dont have a bad gut feeling !
So let us have a look what they decide to do.
In my opinion it would be fantastic to mmet up all again.
Ferdi
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i would agree with that sentiment nick . those that do need a camper could at least leave it off site and travel in by micro . it encourages campside chat and socialising in the bar - never needed encouragement myself ;)
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Being as Otto owns the land he can ban campers if he wishes. The event could be made invite only. Just as we all could on our little plots of land. It would mark the event out as different but I bet there will be an influx of campers to facilities in the area. I guess that does not matter greatly save for an exodus in the evening as only the campers will be left on site. I still think that preferable to a lager of vans keeping the Indians out.
If the Museum moves into a public owned facility that would present something of a problem as there would have to be an area of public access not under control of Otto directly if the newspaper is to be believed.
However what the item would seem to be is pressure and publicity being made to gain backing and funds for an initiative to get the Museum open with participation of the town. It does not say it has Otto's backing. It seems to follow on from the word I had last year that the collection has been sold. However that could be Otto selling it to Otto in another guise. This would fit in with his getting older, the farm as a business and the fact he is indicating he still 'owns' a collection. After all when we went to camp in the orchard it was not a valuable collection. Now it has a value and enough to need protection from the taxman, inheritance etc. Speculation only to be confirmed by events.
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"Ban camper vans" are you lot off your rocker?
Whats wrong with camper vans? Otto was pleased to have camper vans at Story, he and Marianne often came the UK rallies in their camper van.
This years NMCR would have been a disaster without all those camper vans, in fact the revenue raised from them was so great that without them the rally would have made a loss. Besides that Alan, I remember you sleeping in your van at rallies in the past!!
Also the one wash basin provided at this years rally would not have been adequate if we had all been tenting.
Get a grip of yourselves and face up to reality, camper vans are part of modern society and in my view a welcome sight at microcar rallies.
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totally disagree trident but there you are . we all have our opinions . many the rally where by seven o'clock everyones watching tv . what i cant tell is if there were no camper vans would anyone be there ?
i am thinking that was has changed over the years maybe the age of those attending rallies .possibly as they get older they feel less inclined to " rough it " also perhaps those attending are more likely to have wives and or families with them l. better to be there en famille than not at all i suppose .
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we have a similar approach at reliant rallies but not as draconian,ie if you arrive by Reliant you get £5 off your camping fees for the weekend,if arrive by non reliant(inc camper vans,you pay normal price.basically an incentive for people to come in theirs,rather than trailering or as is getting more common,just a normal car(cheaper than the caravan club etc) and also an incentive for people to actually use them and get more to turn up.
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The last Story rally was in 2002. I was there and the field was full of camper vans. During the weekend the field was churned up by these heavy vehicles and I think I'm correct in saying that Otto was a bit annoyed. Maybe allow camper vans, but make them park a couple of hundred metres away with normal cars, so the main camping area is only micros & tents.
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"Ban camper vans" are you lot off your rocker?
Whats wrong with camper vans? Otto was pleased to have camper vans at Story, he and Marianne often came the UK rallies in their camper van.
This years NMCR would have been a disaster without all those camper vans, in fact the revenue raised from them was so great that without them the rally would have made a loss. Besides that Alan, I remember you sleeping in your van at rallies in the past!!
Also the one wash basin provided at this years rally would not have been adequate if we had all been tenting.
Get a grip of yourselves and face up to reality, camper vans are part of modern society and in my view a welcome sight at microcar rallies.
Did not say ban them. Chuck them off the event site to a peripheral area where they do not dominate. If folk wish to be boring and watch TV or go to bed early they can do it in private, not inhibit the rest of those present, whinge about noise, fill the bogs up with their effluent and get stuck. Besides it means far less disruption to the Farm as the tent city need less room and makes less impact on the soil.
Otto touring in a campervan on a holiday is not the same as going to Story. As Nick says Otto was not greatly impressed at the state of the event site at the end of 2002 but then it was mainly folk camping who were left on site to know that and help clear up the mess which is telling in itself about commitment.
We are not talking about the standard British 'microcar' rally we are talking of a hypothetical Story Rally. What modern society wants has little to do with it as an idealised event.
It would seem we are not allowed to have even one event without being dominated by Campervans. If as many felt so hotly about really using their cars we would have some great rallies to attend. The fact is, your right, the events have changed and the modern events have little to offer the, now, minority who actually enjoy the camaraderie of driving to and from an event in the cars and either camping or using local accommodation. These guys are out of date and considered a bit weird and embarrassing even. Ultimately to organise against that group is a loss to Microcars, I would suggest, as it still contains a high proportion of people who are prepared to do things rather than arrive to be entertained. Now there is move away from pure Micromounted activity in this old hardcore group, frankly because they are fed up with what is on offer. Who is to provide that entertainment? I do not make the rules up but I can see where it is going. I am sure there will be a series of campervan events folk will enjoy but it will not be an inclusively Micro activity as lots will not attend.
Interestingly without the campervans we would not have been using the NMCR venue this year and would not have needed the large budget. We managed for a long time using camp sites and travelling out over the weekend even to the Sunday rally venue. It opened up many sites unavailable if you include all the support vehicles. You are just proving the damage the campervan and its demands has made to what used to be great fun and now is not such great fun. But I accept it is a lost argument. Adjustments are being made on that basis, though I reserve the right to join them later as I collect my old git credentials from the NHS for my leg. THe last laugh, hey ho!