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Title: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on December 21, 2011, 08:43:48 AM
hello friends, our french nat's will be the last weekend of august in burgundy ,as  usual ..
registrations will be soon on line on website ( bubblecars.aero-jean-do.com)
but you can be on the first line if you want to visit our Burgundy and meet other bubblecars ' friends , by sending us an aemail
100 persons max ...
thank you , and glad to meet you all
friendly
jean-do
president" Bubblecars & scooters en Bourgogne" association
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Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Jonathan Poll on December 21, 2011, 10:07:26 AM
Looks great! Sadly its too far from us, nothiung ever happens over here!

Hopefully we will do another pyrenees rally, but the past 4 rallies (pyrenees rally and manresa twice in a row) I had to miss because of school...
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on December 21, 2011, 01:38:57 PM
"nothing is too far when you do want it " ... that's my device ...
of course when you'll have to be twice ou more, places the same weekend , you must choose one of them !  6;oD

Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Jonathan Poll on December 21, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
"nothing is too far when you do want it " ... that's my device ...
of course when you'll have to be twice ou more, places the same weekend , you must choose one of them !  6;oD



Well, 400 km each way is quite a bit ;)

We should make a meeting at our house... We have enough cars, but not enough drivers ;)
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on December 21, 2011, 10:35:24 PM
aaaaaahhhhh jonathan, you know that when your father or other objec's t addicts get in their cars with trailor , at 4 in the morning to drive more than 400 km some time , to pick up the rare objet, quickly before other friends heard about it , kilometers are not a brake !!!...


"nothing is too far when you do want it " !! remember this next time !!!
i've drove kilometers  for my job , or for a scooter-microcars adventures without thinking of them !...
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: NickPoll on December 21, 2011, 11:15:08 PM
It's actually 668km each way, not 400.            Nick.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Jonathan Poll on December 21, 2011, 11:17:55 PM
aaaaaahhhhh jonathan, you know that when your father or other objec's t addicts get in their cars with trailor , at 4 in the morning to drive more than 400 km some time , to pick up the rare objet, quickly before other friends heard about it , kilometers are not a brake !!!...


"nothing is too far when you do want it " !! remember this next time !!!
i've drove kilometers  for my job , or for a scooter-microcars adventures without thinking of them !...


My bad, I thought I checked Google maps!

We dont get up at 4am, we sometimes leave late!
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on December 23, 2011, 08:25:00 AM
we are opende till friday pm !... for friends that come from far ... and opende till monday am for the same guys !!
don't worry .
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Big Al on December 23, 2011, 10:17:38 AM

We dont get up at 4am, we sometimes leave late!


If you left late the evening before than it would be about 4am. Simples!
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: NickPoll on December 23, 2011, 11:19:59 AM
It's a shame the meeting is the last weekend in August, as it clashes with the Dutch Rally and sometimes we try to attend and see some of my wife's relations at the same time. Nothing is yet planned for this year, so we'll see.             Nick.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Big Al on December 23, 2011, 12:33:44 PM
Permission to say I noticed that?

It will Bank Holiday and silly prices to cross the channel. Therefore all the better as a timed raid in a Microcar taking advantage of a cunningly bought ticket or as a proper holiday to get the benefit of a reasonable deal on the crossing, folks. Add to this that the National Rally is a weekend later and no need to rush back.

Does France have a Bank Holiday on that Monday as a few folk could drift down, not looked at maps to see the distance?
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on December 23, 2011, 10:42:04 PM
hi friends,
what weekend chosing to please all of us .... not easy !
when we got the castle's site in 2008 ; the only weeknd free ,when we decided to create this french nat's , was " the last of august" !
as it was holidays for all, as it was a biennale, as the site was the best ,as we wanted to be in the european calendar in the best position  ( between manresa spanish nat's biennale ) we get this days as us
. then nederland dwac said this was their ...( but each year) .then frenchies were still in hollidays , other where preparing school season .......hard to have all  guys happy
unfortunately, my job gets me quite each weekend from may to october , on the road going on big events for job  , and let me out of quite all events i would like to discover ...
so don't worry ... we'll be happy to have there  who will come  .. burgundy is finest wine & food 's country  !
we are located at 350km from paris
see web site ,where all is online
happy christmas !

Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Big Al on December 24, 2011, 08:20:17 AM
Hmm! Dutch do good catering and beer. French do the best catering and wine. I think the French win that element of the argument.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on December 25, 2011, 08:08:56 AM
you're welcome, al and all your friends !!
, and we'll do our best for your first BSB rally be the best !!!( excuse one more time my "frenglish", sometimes .....)

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Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Chris Thomas on December 25, 2011, 10:50:11 AM
Dear Jean Do and all the people who attend the Bisbi National Rally.

Your Frenglish is almost perfect. Better than our attemps at French.

It would be nice to get some of our cars down to your rally, and to see some rare French cars at our National Rally, seeing as we are neighbours it would be nice. We see Dutch and German microcar each year and the occassional French Microcar owner.

With the Olympics  in London finished, I hope that travel costs will not be too high on the ferry boats and tunnel.

I wish you well and hope you all have a good New Year 2012

Chris Thomas
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on March 22, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
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Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on April 09, 2012, 08:43:09 AM
aujourdhui , nous avons roulé le parcours du samedi 25 ... soleil , belles routes de campagne , sites superbes ! veinards !!
 today we drove saturday the 25th journey ... sun, nice li'l roads, nice places of interest ! lucky you'll be !
 cette partie de la bourgogne est à 80 % plate, n'hesitez pas a venir avec des petits bubblecars ... mopetta, mochet, rolux ...rollera ...
 that part of the Burgundy, is 80% flat , don't hesitate to come with such small bubblecars : mopetta, rolux, mochet , rollera ...
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Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on April 10, 2012, 01:30:50 PM
Le bon d'inscription est en ligne dans l'apres -midi ....
register form will be online in the afternoon...
see http://bubblecars.aero-jean-do.com
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on May 25, 2012, 08:11:17 AM
now available 2010 DVD .... (15€)
and still available 2008 DVD ...(15€)
(low price for both 25€)
add shipping ...
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Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on June 17, 2012, 09:17:49 AM
this week, Bisbi, our mascotte, discovered curiosity .... oh not a second war memorial .........may be some gifts for friends at the Bisbi nat's rally .....
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Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on July 06, 2012, 07:19:46 AM
hi friends,
pre-sales low cost registrations end 01.08 ... don't miss this first present , before all others during the rally ...
don't hesitate to phone or email if you have  some questions ...
 see some countryside you'll cross over ...
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Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on July 18, 2012, 07:42:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVbZ77XJ5o&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on July 18, 2012, 02:41:54 PM
Formidable! Hope the weather's as good as in the video.  :)
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on July 24, 2012, 07:22:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF6xf7YrbCk


6;oD
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 06, 2012, 06:48:59 AM
hey friends !... don't be afraid if you come to our French nat's in Burgundy ; there won't be any snails in our gastronimic lunches !!! ^^
but a lot of good other things and gifts !!
you're welcome ...
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 12, 2012, 08:25:23 PM
yesterday, with the staff, we discovered one of the museum you 'll see during the rally ... fantactic : vintage factory from 1870 ... a story of human works .... can't tell you more now ....
but you're welcome !
Bob what's up with your Inter ??! is it afraid to drive on its birthplace   roads ??, ^^
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Bob Purton on August 12, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
ERR?   YES!

I would dearly love to bring the Inter to Burgundy but the cost is prohibitive which is likely the same reason we do not see you at the UK rallies. One day I will do it but will have to save up the pennies!  I hope everything goes well Mr do!
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 13, 2012, 06:26:04 AM
hi bob, not just money cost may stop me ... as it's just the weekend after Bisbi nat's , as it's a meeting weekend for my workshop ....
don't imagine i don't wanna come ! this spring we went to north belgium to DWacb rally ... was far too .
we are ready to have you there ....
friendly
 jean-do
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 14, 2012, 06:31:45 AM
http://www.creusot-infos.com/article.php?sid=40015&mode=&order=0
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Bob Purton on August 14, 2012, 08:33:04 AM
Thanks for this Jean-do, I wish I could be there!  About the report, it says only three are running, surely that cant be right?
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: fibreglass on August 14, 2012, 09:39:57 AM
Hi Jean do

Do you ever move your rally west as we are around 700km away so actually nearer to the UK ?
You might attract some uk visitors, Brittany is a nice area for microcars as it is not too hilly.
Would love to have come over to your rally but will be back in the UK at that time this year but maybe next year.

Thanks
Mark
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Big Al on August 14, 2012, 07:58:16 PM
Ooo, A sort of Brittany Spares, Mark?

I think the first target to get back into things could be DWacb in Belgium. This is a pretty easy run over and need not be to expensive. Great to go with 3 to 5 cars in convoy.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: fibreglass on August 14, 2012, 09:39:43 PM
Hi Al

I am afraid Belgium is a good run for us, just done the trip to Dunkerque, it is nearly 400 miles.
St Malo is easy as it's only about 40 or 50 miles away but taking a big old lorry on Brittany ferries is not too cheap.
We can get all the way to the UK and back again including ferry and fuel for little more than the one way ferry crossing with Brittany.

Thanks
Mark
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Big Al on August 15, 2012, 08:40:51 AM
Brittany Ferries used to be subsidised, didn't it? They always seemed a bit expensive to me but the folks had a property owners card which discounted the prices and as they travelled with a cabin etc. the saving beat P and O. Of course now there are less routes over than 10 years ago.

As to Belgium, I was being a bit selfish and thinking south of England. France is a big country and I was amazed to find that it was easier driving to Mannheim from Faringdon than it was from my folks near Cahor. Effectively it is motorway all the way save about 10 miles. Whilst rural France is a joy to drive through and a good average speed can be kept on the A and B roads it is still a long way.  Yet to do a Belgium Rally, depending on location, you can do more miles in the UK than in Belgium. It is the ideal starter rally for those who fancy going abroad in a microcar but have not the confidence to dive head first into mid Germany, say.

Thinks. Are you over here during the weekend of the National? I really ought to make a visit to your emporium.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: fibreglass on August 15, 2012, 07:01:29 PM
Brittany Ferries certainly seem to have gone up in price, we used to have a property owners card before we got the lorry but when you use a lorry to travel backwards and forwards, most of the time it just isn't viable especially with the dogs as you cannot do St Malo to Portsmouth with a lorry and dogs, large van is no problem.
We find the tunnel is easiest but the lorry with dogs is not allowed so when we came over earlier in the year we used a van on the tunnel and it worked out very cheap if booked in advance. It isn't quite cheap enough for you UK guys to nip over to France for the cheap diesel but the way UK prices are heading you never know  :)
We are over here now until after the national so you are welcome to pop over for a look, won't be able to show you everything as I have a lot of stuff including a few cars upstairs above some of my units but when I did some building work converting another unit I lost the access and seeing as I am not to worried about getting them out in the near future I haven't bothered putting in a new access. I have several crammed in my other workshop, you could probably just about see some of them.
I will see you at the rally.
Thanks
Mark
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 16, 2012, 06:47:11 AM
thank you friend for your interessed ... knows that we were at DWACB rally this spring, , with 700 km to go there , in 2010 microcar treffen zurich 400 ... as my job keeps me on meeting during the commercial season, i don't look at distance when i want to go ... just have to find free weekend ..
and as there are not many " pure" microcars rallys in france ( we are the only one ) switzerland, belgium ... have to choose as possible .
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 18, 2012, 08:22:10 AM


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Derniers jours pour l'inscription ... cloture Mercredi 22 aout ...
last days for registration ..... ended 22th wednesday ...
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 21, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
http://www.creusot-infos.com/article.php?sid=40174&mode=&order=0

here is the 2012 Bisbi National rally 's star !
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 23, 2012, 06:13:32 AM
http://www.creusot-infos.com/article.php?sid=40221&mode=&order=0

another star .... starS !!
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: NickPoll on August 27, 2012, 08:31:18 AM
Hello Jean Do,
          We held a 'pure' microcar rally in France every two years for eight years. Unfortunately not many French attended. We had many people from UK, Austria, Germany, Holland though. Giles Deloge was the only French regular.  Michel Humbert also came a couple of times and a couple of others.
         Jonathan and I past the area of your rally on saturday on our way back from Norway with the unknown Tiger on board. It would have been great to pop in, but we didn't have the details and no internet accesss. We stayed overnight at a Formule 1 hotel in Lyon. Luckily the trailer was still there sunday morning. We then went to look at a dismantled schmitt nearby.   Nick.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on August 27, 2012, 04:29:54 PM
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/bisbi_10.jpg)
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: NickPoll on August 27, 2012, 06:53:35 PM
I guess you are more central, and have more owners near you. Our event was in the far south. Having said that, we had over seventy people at each rally who came a great distance.  Why did you never come along  Jean ?
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 27, 2012, 08:44:33 PM
Dear Jean Do

I hope all went well at the rally

Looking at your photograph, what is the car on the left in the back row. It looks very interesting.

Keep up the good work

Chris Thomas
Rumcar News
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Bob Purton on August 27, 2012, 08:47:10 PM
Looks like a David to me.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Jim Janecek on August 27, 2012, 09:17:00 PM
Looks like a David to me.

I don't think so, here is a better pic

Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 28, 2012, 09:17:48 AM
Dear Jim

Thank you for that additional photo. Fantastic to see this car in such good condition. I can now see that it is a Tractavant (1948-51)
I have only ever seen a picture of a soft top version of this car before.

Lets hope we see more of this car in future.

Chris Thomas
Rumcar News
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Bob Purton on August 28, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
Ugly!
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: richard on August 28, 2012, 01:50:57 PM
OFGS Bob - you own an INTER  :D

looks interesting and fun to me
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Big Al on August 28, 2012, 07:38:22 PM
Ugly!

Why bother with the Panther motorcycle when you can have the powered family sidecar. I love it.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: NickPoll on August 28, 2012, 07:41:15 PM
I agree, it looks brilliant.                            Nick.
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Bob Purton on August 28, 2012, 09:31:01 PM
I guess beauty is in the eye of the" beerholder".
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: jean-do on October 16, 2012, 07:04:53 PM
this bubblecar is the prototype called Tractavant , created by engineer Henri Lanoy .
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/img_2710.jpg)

he made  may be just this one , with hard top ; that you can discover at the fantastic Henri Malartre museum a Rochetaillée , closer to lyon .
you can find a roadster version in vintage magazines, with same licence number ... may be the first evo ...
front wheel has the aubier dunne 125 cc engine ,installed  quite  as a Bond .
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/sam_0310.jpg)
but to get in , you must be a snake .... a big round hood covers the engine and front axel rotation, so that you have to threw the left leg, then  bend over,
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/p1030310.jpg)
 then , get the head in , move your ass over the seat, still holding the steering wheel firmly ...then while you sit down, remove the right leg, left outside of the tractavant, inside ... ouf !
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/p1030311.jpg)
You didn't notice that the tractavant was kick starter  starting .... outside of the bubble .... under the front hood.....!
open the door, get the right leg out, grip the handelbar and try to leave your ass & body up from the deep seat, then get ass out, then head , then left leg ...........
( i dont post pics, just must just read  this from end to begining ...)
now, in front of tractavant, turn the front wheel to max right , then open the hood, then open the little front right door , wet the carb, remove the kick stater out of the door , then pull it firmly ( repeat till it starts ...) hope your carbs set-ups are right and aubier dunne hold  the 800rpm as long as you'll need to come back inside the tractavant ' without forgetting to close lill door and hood ! ( you can ask your rear passenger , to throttle with the pedal on the floor ... that 's easy for him ! and secured for you !!)
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/img_2711.jpg)
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/img_2712.jpg)
then quickly repeat the first lesson to get in the tractavant .....
we can now just think to your passenger, that had to " crawl  to the rear seat threw a little way, between the front seat  and the body, equal to a leg space ( in that case the right leg ...)if you wife is over 50kg ... ask  her to ride your moped to go with you .....
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/p1030313.jpg)
note the extra window to close the door .. the door lock is outside .....
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/p1030314.jpg)

so .... now the engine starts, doors hoods are closed , friend or wife can't escape ... let's go for a ride !!!
how explain that .... it look as if you were  moving water valves ,because of the flat position steering wheel, driving a truck , with the heavy front wheel, and beeing a spring chick in its egg  some minutes before the shell explosion ......
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/img_2713.jpg)
mind when you turn , first action on the steerring wheell ... nothing   ... then with strong action, you begin to turn steering, then suddenly, the engine weight, moves you to the max position  : schlonk !!! ok , but as you had not put up your right feet, the front wheel grips , and has the tractavant has got small wheelbase, you turn over the interior wheel, wwoooopps .... with suddenly the impression that you'll finish on the  door opposite the corner  ( there 's only  one door ok !)
get the brakes, read the first check list to get out of the tractavant , and get your moped ...
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/img_6110.jpg)
know why it's a prototype ??!...
next time we'll talk about the motorised baby carriage ...
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/44/77/74/31932310.jpg)

thanks to Bernard Vaireaux , henri Malartre museum Scientific director , for the tractavant lessons and to have brought , and drive  it during 2010  Bisbi national rally .
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Big Al on October 16, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
Utterly brilliant and then it got better. Nurse, nurse....
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: marcus on October 16, 2012, 07:42:19 PM
The Tractavant is ridiculous! Not really much use as a daily vehicle, but ridiculous, absurd and great fun!

The pram and "Nanny Wagen" appears to be methane powered, with Nanny kept on a special diet to provide the fuel!
Title: Re: Bisbi National Rally ; BSB france 25-26 august
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on October 17, 2012, 12:14:41 AM
Did Mr Lanoy engineer anything else? I'm guessing there was some rational behind his distinctive design that isn't obvious. Perhaps he wasn't allowed sharp implements where he was based or something.