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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: richard on January 11, 2012, 03:33:54 PM
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i love old photos as you may have guessed - they can tell you a lot . what can this one tell us - no catches
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Some dealers can block the pathways and get away with it?
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Beaut!
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i love old photos as you may have guessed - they can tell you a lot . what can this one tell us - no catches
I think this one beats it...
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No it does not, there are no Heinkels in it!
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No it does not, there are no Heinkels in it!
Is this better?
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nice one jonno but no mopeds ;)
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i'm sure i can see a scratch right down the side of the "new " Heinkel , see the trokart window sticker
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i love old photos as you may have guessed - they can tell you a lot . what can this one tell us - no catches
Lovely picture. When was it taken? Some detective work suggest 1964. Am I wrong?
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It could have been taken circa 1960 when the Trokart came out a year after the new Ariel Leader (1959) motorcycle shown in the picture.
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The Lambrettas are series II before the series III (slimstyle) which commenced production in December 1961. So the photo is before this date.
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i love old photos as you may have guessed - they can tell you a lot . what can this one tell us - no catches
Drinking and driving mix if you buy something wobbly off us?
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Lovely picture. When was it taken? Some detective work suggest 1964. Am I wrong?
Station Approach, Harlow Mill, Harlow, Essex, if it is the same as the modern version. Not convinced as not any dodgy geezers hanging about in the picture.
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1960/61 seems about right bob , i think, pre Trojan of '62 - at least the lhd Heinkel isn't yet badged as a Heinkel Ireland . the Norton twins extreme left are '61 onwards i think. BSA headlamp cowls went out about then too. window stickers for isetta,bond,heinkel and FRISKY also for the Paloma ! the by then tired looking BSA twin with double adult sidecar was on offer at £69 ( chalked on the sunroof ) - dont know my lightweights tho ........
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http://www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/10/42/857/index.htm
i do have a copy of this photo in front of me but just looked up geneva motors , bootle , liverpool and this website dates the photo at 1960
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Derby+Road+Bootle&hl=en&ll=53.441032,-2.997433&spn=0.001227,0.003484&sll=51.790071,0.132802&sspn=0.000657,0.001742&vpsrc=6&hnear=Derby+Rd,+Bootle,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=53.441207,-2.997507&panoid=mDwY2YRKlz_HUjCzi8j6kQ&cbp=12,233.44,,0,-0.07&source=gplus-ogsb
Could be Mersey Motorcycles (308 Derby Road) Bootle - Hope this link works.
And others are looking too
http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/topic/45383-motorbike-dealers-of-the-60s/
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could the moped on the left be a Phillips p45 ? or possibly a Raleigh moped launched 1958 ? cant make out the makers name on the moped on the right, it appears to be a Sachs engined Lledo model but by whom ? by the way in the list of franchises is RAP what were they ?
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One on the left is an NSU Snelly and the one on the right a Norman Lido.
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well done i thought you might know them . out of my depth here. i have to tell you i googled NSU snelly - DONT DO IT !!!
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From the same series
www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/9/35/1684/index. Messerschmitt!
http://www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/9/35/1561/index.htm Frisky
http://www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/9/transport.html
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http://www.cartype.com/pages/455/rap__1952 a hint to the RAP agency - a rare one
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My thoughts: The advertisement for the sliding window Isetta dates the picture 1958 - 1964 (unless this was an old advert at the time). The bikes or cars listed in the window are Mobylette, (illegible), NSU, Paloma, (illegible), Heinkel, Bond, ISO, Velocette, Binetta, Excelsior, Frisky, Panther. I assume the bikes on display are new as there aren't many plates visible, but timing would be more difficult if the bikes were second hand. I note the comments regarding the bikes as many of you know more about these than I do. I can't see a badge on the Heinkel / Trojan.
The posting on the right for the Sunday Dispatch shows Robert Boothby, Baron Boothby, a shady character who was educated at Eton and Magdalen College, Oxford. He married twice and was said to have fathered at least three children by the wives of two other men. One of these wives was Dorothy Macmillan whose husband Harold Macmillan later became prime minister. Boothby also befriended the Kray twins. In spite of his chequered history Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother described him 'a bounder but not a cad'. Boothby's underworld connections were well known to many journalists, but in those days they kept quiet. Eventually in 1964 the story couldn't be contained any longer. Hence my thoughts about the date of the photograph. But apparently Boothby was a commentator on public affairs for many years prior to the scandal so if 20thcenturyimages date this photograph as 1960, I think we can agree on that.
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No it does not, there are no Heinkels in it!
Is this better?
??? Where are the Peels ;)
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The Last issue of The Sunday Dispatch was June 18th 1961.
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No it does not, there are no Heinkels in it!
Is this better?
??? Where are the Peels ;)
The picture probably predates the Peels.
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MY guess is 1960.
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we are a bright lot between us aren't we ..... but individually ? ;)
one other clue - pudding basin helmets no longer the fashion late '61 onwards it was then " jet style" helmets . of course he may have been a bit behind the times in Liverpool ? or trying to shift older stocks by still placing corkers in the window
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Davida still make the Classic pudding basin helmet but it doesn't conform to any current helmet safety standards. But saying that I bought one 4 years ago and used it with various bikes I had at the time. May get another one when I've got my new toy back on the road.
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Rob, I have a new set of clutch plates for said new toy if you need them.
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No it does not, there are no Heinkels in it!
Is this better?
Love that photo=shopping!
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hi RUSTY CHROME could you print us a picture of the sign shop 240 Derby Road bootle L20 8LJ from google . we might recognise what is now 5 shop units . passed it today but no camera and i cant figure out google maps print an image
IGNORE THIS SEE NEXT MESSAGE
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=240+derby+road+bootle+L20+8LJ&hl=en&ll=53.443797,-2.998409&spn=0.000026,0.02105&sll=53.443375,-2.998452&sspn=0.006352,0.02105&vpsrc=0&hnear=240+Derby+Rd,+Sefton+L20+8,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.443645,-2.998577&panoid=ENutzWkNYW819ko_yypmUQ&cbp=13,197.1,,0,5
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Found this shop on Derby Road - could be Geneva Motors?
Couldn't see how to save a picture from Google street view.
I used 'Print Screen' and copied into another program before exporting as jpg. Not as good quality as it started out but at least I got something.
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yep i've been there today . interesting that now the end TWO units are the sign shop . on that view the end unit was BATTERY PECIALIST :P its just the google view in reality it was Specialist on the sign . it now makes signs good job they can spell then :)
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Yes, you can just see that the S has been googly-compressed in to P of Specialist.
Google cannot be trusted: being foreign, it has decided that Bermondsey SE1 is actually Camberwell SE1.
Camberwell is actually two wards away! I have notified them many times, but once something wrong has been put on computer records it always stays!
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Towards away? No wonder they are confused. They do not speak the queen's English.
Try two Burt Wards away, Gotham City SE1.