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Title: Invalid carriage?
Post by: blob on February 20, 2007, 10:31:46 AM
Heres one for Stuart to identify item: 290085413370
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on February 21, 2007, 09:49:52 AM
Oooh, very nice. Indeed tis a Nelco Solocar but nowhere near as old as they say it is. Try circa 1952. Yet another "new" conveyance previusly unkown to me, being the fourth in as many days so far, with three Argson Electrics coming to light on Sunday, Monday & Tuesday, pushing their niumbers up to 23 known examples, and thus starting to give the Solocar as a type a run for its money as the most commen type of invalid carriage.  Now this "new" Solocars turned up, and is the 25th known Solocar, so it is still the Solocar that holds the top spot. But how long for????.......

   Tis better than the soaps on the telly all this you know. Much more exciting!

 What do you mean; "I should get out more!"?
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Post by: ronnie on March 16, 2007, 05:36:51 PM
Twenty four now!
I have an Argson electric invalid carriage.  I bought it unused 35 years ago and dismantled it and wrapped it up in sacking.  It is now in my workshop going rusty I
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Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 16, 2007, 09:13:18 PM
Hello Ronnie

 I would love to hear more about your Argson and how you came by it. Is it really Ministry "New-Old" stock?  :o Might I also be cheeky and ask if there's any chance of a photo for the I.C.R photo album? All costs covered of course.
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Post by: inacoma on March 16, 2007, 09:14:23 PM
Cor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stuart will have to have a lie down with all this excitement :D ;) :)
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Post by: ronnie on March 17, 2007, 06:06:24 PM
I could assemble the parts and photo them.  It will take a while but I would be pleased to send you a picture, I would like you to tell me more about it.   I
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: ronnie on March 21, 2007, 03:03:17 PM
I did it today and the photos should be on www.rondouglas.co.uk


It looked a bit sad propped-up on jacks and with all the bits resting on each other.   30 years ago I put the nuts and bolts and the motor brushes if cloth bags soaked in oil but mice ate the bags and the contents were lost.   The wood parts are wormy.  The painted parts are rusty but only surface rust.  The Perspex screen is unscratched and the hood is sound with a small rip.   The motor sounds good when you spin the wheels.   The electrics are dirty but the whole thing makes me wish I had time to do it.  The plate on the motor says
Electro Dynamic Construction Co Ltd, London.. Rating : 1 hour. Volts :36. Amps :20.
 No : 63075K . Year: 1953. (99% sure but it has a Lucas flasher unit, do you think that is OK for 1953?)  R.P.M: 3100.  B.H.P.: 075.  
More info in the handbook.  On the exploded view drawings in the book  it says, "Stanley Engineering "

It has never been used.

Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 21, 2007, 03:36:49 PM
 Oh I love it! From what I can see, all the details are correct for 1953, the penultimate year of production. Its full title is thus that it is an Argson Electric De Luxe, as made by the Stanley Engineering Company of Egham, Surrey. Presumibly as "New-Old stock, it never had a registration Number? If it came from the Ministry, it should have one. For further general details, please see my publication; "An Introduction to Invalid Carriages!, advertised elsewhere on this forum.

 Alas, please don't ask me to buy it. Much as I would really love to, I already have a 1949 example that is getting worse every time I look at it, plus no less than four others are looking to me to find them a good home....

 Anyway, very many thanks for taking the effort to post the pictures (more than a lot of others round here ever do!). If ever the I.C.R can assist you at any time in the future, I am at your service. To be extra cheeky here, might I ask if you would be agreeable to registering  it with the R.U.M for future referance?  Details of how to do that can be found elsewhere on this site.

 Once again, many thanks.   ;D:-*
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: ronnie on March 21, 2007, 04:45:32 PM
Thank you for the info.  I will do as you sugest and put it on the register.  Where do I find your book?
Best wishes.
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 21, 2007, 05:07:07 PM
Many thanks for that. The general details of my book can be found in "A publication on sale at last from Stuart Cyphus" in the Unusual Microcar Discussion section of this forum. Avalible at  Â£3 per copy all in direct from me at the address given. I'm currently sold out at the moment, but a new batch is expected hot from the printers very soon. (I hope! - I've got 13 orders backed up already!!!)

       All the best

 (There you are everybody who's been following this episode in the soap opera that is another day in the life of the Invalid Carriage Register, it's easy to find these cars and get them signed up. All you have to do is ask politely when you hear of one and be a bit forthcoming with the old details for the owners.)
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Post by: burford57 on March 22, 2007, 07:58:49 PM
Here's an early Invacar to get those Cyphus juices flowing.
STAND BACK EVERYBODY!

260098654117, item located in Cambridgeshire, a stone's throw from Witney!

Nick D.
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: witney44 on March 22, 2007, 09:44:19 PM
When are you going to sell yours Nick?  ;D
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Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 23, 2007, 01:30:56 PM
I'm ahead of ya Nick, I spotted that the night it went up, and by noon the next day I'd contacted the seller and got all the SP on it  ;D  Not just any old conveyance either, but the 200th KNOWN EXISTING INVALID CARRIAGE!!!! (Thank you for your kind appluse...) That's right folks, the I.C.R now has details of two hundred British invalid three-wheelers dating from 1924 to 1978 dotted all around the world that can be seen right here, right now. Including three types that were rekoned to be extinct until I got involved. Not bad going I don't think when you concider that when I took over the I.C.R in October 2001, several people told me that by all accounts and estimates, there couldn't possibley be any more than 50 such vehicles existing in total everywhere. Now on with the next hundred!
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Post by: Trident on March 23, 2007, 06:12:23 PM
ICI (Invalid Carriage Institute) has records of 678 Invalid vehicles dating back to 1988, beat that Stuart !! :o
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Post by: inacoma on March 23, 2007, 06:19:42 PM
Hi

Do they make good paint as well?
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: witney44 on March 23, 2007, 07:19:47 PM
Where is the Invalid Carriage Institute? Is it in U S of A where most things are bigger. LOL.  ;D
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Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 23, 2007, 07:47:33 PM
If there's anything bigger than the Invalid Carriage Register (and my ego!) around here, I want it rounded up and shot!  >:( ( ;D)
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Post by: witney44 on March 23, 2007, 08:35:30 PM
OOO I SAY!  Round 'em up cowboy.  :-* Did you get my email concerning yours to me found in my spam file? Rob D. ;D
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 23, 2007, 10:26:37 PM
Hello Bob, yes I did get your email, expect a reply shortly but to everyone who has sent me emails, or will do, don't worry if no reply is forthcoming for a couple of days. I'm currently reciving about twenty messages a day, none of which are "spam" would you belive, all being conveyance or micro related. Concidering I don't have a personal life, a lot of people evidently like me at the moment.....

 Now, where did I put my stetson and spurs?....
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Post by: burford57 on March 24, 2007, 08:34:32 AM
Really, Stuart, you're too modest!  Looking like Freddie Mercury how can you not have a personal life?

Regards
Nick D.
Title: Re: Stuarts secret life.
Post by: inacoma on March 24, 2007, 12:15:07 PM
Hi

I'm one of the lucky ones who has a photo of Stuart ( No I don't keep it under my pillow).

I think he has a real job working on Eastenders, he looks like the bloke who won best newcomer (last year ? soap awards).

For those of you not in the know his hair has a hint of GIN_ _R.

Don'r worry Stuart we still love you  :D

John
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 24, 2007, 03:12:09 PM
Oooh, what picture :o  is that John? There's a few pics from my banger racing days floating around here and there, but I didn't know there were any others!  Want me to autograph it???!  ;D 

Oh yes folks, you could start a bonfire with my hair, and I've even won prizes for it. Like coming 5th in a "Best Redhead" contest in a rather unusual pub in London a couple of years back. However, a lot of the details surronding that contest is really not fit for family viewing, under 18s or before 9pm at night, so I shall leave them to your imajanation.  :o ;D

Him from Eastenders? Pah!! A mere pretender to my crown!
Title: Re: Invalid carriage?
Post by: inacoma on March 24, 2007, 04:19:48 PM
Hi

It's the one of you in the Mini Comtesse, you sent me recently.

I think we should be getting your autograph now so that we can flog it off later when you are famous.

All the best

John