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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: micro marshall on June 11, 2014, 02:30:54 PM
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I decided while I had some time on my hands I would design a RUMcar news front cover. What do you think? :o ;D ;D
Bobs on it so that should make him happy! ;) :D :D
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Oh yeh! Don't mention the whitewall tyres! ;D
The Berkeley special was also mine once.
Anymore thoughts on a new design for the website?
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Dear Jamie
You obviously have too much time on your hands now that you have finished your exams.
A couple of issues that you ,ay ned to think about and incorporate
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Sorry about that my computer decided to do its own thing
1 your page layout relies upon the use of edge to edge printing. This means printing on over size paper and trimming down to size. The over size paper and trimming make it more expensive. THis means there has to be a margin on all four sides for our purposes.
2 Jean likes the return address to be on both the front and back covers so the postal people have no excuse for junking the envelope if they can not find the address on the envelope.
3 The use of a small image to illustrate each article is good, but using three images for the main part of the front cover means a lot of extra high resolution photographs. The image on the cover should reflect the content, but should also maintain the image of the whole publication. For example Kit car magazines always like a Cobra image on the front cover as it typifies the wants of the readership, or an Aston Martin DB6 on the front of a classic car magazine for the same reason. The more images on the front cover the more crowded the space becomes, which is not ideal when you want to send out a clear message.
4 The banner name should be on the top right as that is the corner your eye starts to scan the page, and if you file them will be on the free edge. Magazines on a news stand spread them from left to right, so they have their banner on the top left, but as we are not sold on a news stand we do not need to follow that rule.
5 The page layout of the cover is never the same as for the rest of the publication, but should be in the same style and colour scheme, If you take a magazine, any magazine, turn it upside down and then turn over the pages, you should see that the cover is different to denote the start but is similar to the other pages. The reason for tuning it upside down is so you look at the layout and not the words or the images first.
I hope that helps
Chris Thomas
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GOOD WORK Jamie.
I particularly like the way that you show the P50 apparently ready to pounce on its intended prey.
I also like the fact that you are not afraid to show the bastard Berkely, and am looking forward to the article on Hienkel engine rebuilding- particularly if it covers the Dynastart, and setting of the camshaft timing.
Chris's expertise in the numerous and detailed considerations in perfecting paper publications is well appreciated.
It is also more appreciated than ever- now that he has educated the rest of us as to just how complex these not obvious factors truly are.
Interesting to note that he is as good with paper and poor with electronic medium, as you are good with electronic medium and, like the rest of us, unaware of the complexities of designing good paper copy.
To wit; Chris, despite his old school expertise , didn't even know how to REMOVE his partial post that preceded his completed masterpiece of enlightenment. Even I know how to do that.
The obvious solution that is in the best interest of Rumcars as a whole would be for the two of you to collaborate. Your help in redesigning the website will be most appreciated, as the rest of us old timers (Bob, Chris and myself included), have not a clue as to how this could be done,
You can and should continue to send up your interesting photographic compilations to Chris and the rest of us interested readers on this forum.
It wouldn't surprise me if by so doing you got familiar enough with Chris's professional criticism to rise above us all and eventually be a master of both worlds. ;)
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well back on my subject steven STILL can't spell HEINKEL ;) and jamie a British publication should not make reference to " tires " that is an American spelling , we use the word Tyres - unless of course that would be an article on American rubber things ;)
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WOT NO ......... GORDON ?
Kilroy ( chad )
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The wrong spelling of tyre is one that really bugs me!
Still, Richard, if you are going to pick others up on there spelling mistakes you have to be spot on yourself. I notice you cant spell piston [pistion] in your ebay ad for the Villiers engine! Hmm, egg on face I think!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Villiers-engine-9e-11e-Scootacar-Bond-Minicar-Vintage-Scooter-Motorcycle-/301209139285?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item462176b855
I dare say you will edit it before others find you out!
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Isn't it also slovenly using the spelling WOT instead of what. Teaching really went down hill in the nineteen sixties.
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well back on my subject steven STILL can't spell HEINKEL ;) and Jamie a British publication should not make reference to " tires " that is an American spelling , we use the word Tyres - unless of course that would be an article on American rubber things ;)
Well its good to see that you agree with with the content and commentary of my post. For if anyone so picky as to make a big deal over someone using a phonetic ( fone et ic) spelling that simply switches the sequence of the vowels around to match the local pronunciation on a word that even the Rumcars spell checker has no other proper suggested spelling for, would certainly have pointed out any gaps in logic or information contained therein.
Jamie likes muscle cars, and stuffing small block V8 engines in bastard Berkelys.
Regardless of the feasibility of doing such, I therefore I find it fitting that he spell "tires" the right American way, and he does so with my blessing.
P.S. Richard- I beieve that even in England you are supposed to spell "Steven" with a capital S.
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Apologies for lack of capital S Steven . Most don't bother on modern text and keyboard messaging but on this occasion did in the main . Tires was just an aside. Pistion I hadn't noticed and too late now as it's sold Bob. The spelling of Heinkel is a problem for Steven not me , it is not the first time he has sought advice on the subject. Nowadays we surely always search for any internet content and you just won't ever find it if you spell it incorrectly . Right or wrong ?
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Wrong.
The search engine immediately corrects your spelling, and then shows you the same results.
Try it yourself if you want convincing.
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I'm a pretty poor speller and what doesn't help is the equipment we use, my pc is switched on to UK English and even when I spell a word correctly the USA written spell checker tries to tell me its wrong and change it to something other than the Queens English. What's the point of offering American English or UK English when according to them its the same?
This link highlights 1,800 variations.
http://www.tysto.com/uk-us-spelling-list.html
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Maybe some search engines will Steven but this forum - surely one of the places one might want to search - does NOT - try it Steven ;)
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Rob surely you are old enough to recognise a bit of Kilroy was here ? From the pre-war period , sometimes known as Chad in the UK . Search Wot no ....
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well back on my subject
Why?
This is where Jamie's contribution was hijacked off subject. I believe we were having a discussion about how to improve Rumcar News, as well as the website.
Anyone else have something of constructive relevance to add?
If you want to once again begin your rant about spelling, you should start another post, rather than detract from a topic of greater importance to our organization and its followers.
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Ooooh :) by the way you never spell Berkeley correctly - search that !
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I think you will struggle to improve Rumcar news!
Just remember it is the easiest thing in the world to criticise. Not that Steven criticises much.
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I am sorry if I gave the false impression that Rumcar News needed any improvement.
Chris and crew are doing a great job!
I was just trying to encourage Jamie, as he is young, and seems talented and energetic enough to be a valuable player in the future of Rumcars organization.
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Apologies for lack of capital S Steven . Most don't bother on modern text and keyboard messaging but on this occasion did in the main . Tires was just an aside. Pistion I hadn't noticed and too late now as it's sold Bob. The spelling of Heinkel is a problem for Steven not me , it is not the first time he has sought advice on the subject. Nowadays we surely always search for any internet content and you just won't ever find it if you spell it incorrectly . Right or wrong ?
A certain bud of yours searches Ebay for many common misspelling of parts or car marques and has had some rather good buys from folks spelling errors. So someone is doing OK out of it.
If it is Tires then is it Styeven in English? THe Queen's English is meant to be correct, but she is German. Its all very confusing. I know, Pigeon English, Coo eck!
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sssssh al
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Dear All
The rant about spelling is a regular theme that sends items off at a tangent, and I understand that for those who are not dyslexic it is a great distraction. But for those that are dyslexic, just writing something without being criticised is refreshing. As we have both camps on the forum I think we need to be tolerant of both, and occasionally we should encourage people to contribute on the subject, rather than send the subject off at a tangent.
Sometimes a rant can also be funny, and the tangent can sometimes lead onto something more interesting, so banning either is not a good thing. I think we just need to remember that what may be funny to us, may not be funny to others who are reading the forum, which is open to the world to read.
Keep encouraging Jamie, keep the humour on the right side of the law, and keep up the community spirit.
Let's get back to the front cover
Chris Thomas
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I thought Jamie's front cover was great and your "constructive" criticism a little harsh Chris.
I don't think the difference between American and English spelling is anything to do with dyslexia. Isnt that more to do with how one see's the letters? As usual I will stand corrected and usually have too! ;D
We should however stop lashing out at each other over typing errors!
How about letting Jamie do the cover of RCN every now and again as special issues?
The latest one as a thirty year edition could have been such.
Just an idea.
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i thought jamies contribution laudable . chris' reply wasn't harsh , i don't think , but rather thought provoking . Whoever knew that the magazine editor had quite so many considerations - and thats just for the cover ! well done both i say :)
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All talent to be encouraged and fine till a clash of task or styles. Normally that is easy resolved and harmony with variation results. A good editor, of course, is a tremendous help. Its not an easy job to balance styles, content, varied skill set and timing. Never been editor, not my skill set, despite even virtually acting as one on several occasions, but contributor for yonks. Have to work with the Ed on this, some are easier than others. If you rub along can be a rewarding pastime.
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Have to say, Chris is by far the best editor we have ever had. One of his best qualities is that he is open to suggestions which is always a good thing. Wont say anymore otherwise Chris will not be able to get his head through the doorway.
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woah there bob , there are two past editors on the forum ;)
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and yes they both did a great job in there day. My preference of material would have to be that selected in the Mike Shepherd era, all great vintage microcar stuff. During Tony's reign the magazine was bought into a much more modern looking format and then Chris inherited all the acquired experience of the earlier versions and moved it on to what I feel is probably the best mico mag you can currently buy! I don't always like all of the content but there is generally something in it for all tastes. Credit where credit is due.
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Credit where credit is due.
Jean was the first Editor, then Mike, Tony then took over, He who has had two Microcar books published, Now Chris carries on!
There are three past Editors on the Forum but Tony doesn't look at it so he told me.