RUMCars Forum
General Category => Sales & Auctions => Topic started by: messyman on November 29, 2014, 10:26:51 PM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141485019876?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
mike from the bubblecar museum at langrick is selling a Messerschmitt kr200 project so if your interested in a Schmitt then this is a possibility
have a look!!!!! 8) ;D
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why ?
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Why what?
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Why keep flagging up cars for sale when people who use this forum are bidding on them and dont want the competition to multiply!
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Is it a forum for information, or a cartel for buying? Ooo eck!
How would I know if anyone is bidding, unless I know their bidding, and thus know there is an auction, which might interest someone who did not know about it bidding but had expressed interest on the forum in obtaining such a car? Goodness gracious me!
This is a more complicated version of the first question. However if I ask both, I cover the bases of those who can read and inwardly digest, and those that cannot, hopefully.
I have found buying stuff a lot easier by turning up with a pile of cash and a means with which to remove the car. Is Mike going to pay eBay fees of at least £250........? Nice weekend for a drive 'innit.
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Simples! For example we all know Messyman is looking for a Frisky chassis. Suppose one of us spotted one for sale in an up coming auction or anywhere else for that matter. We could let him know in one of two ways, send him a private message thus increasing his chances of getting it or paste it up for all to see thus reducing his chances. I would choose the former. We all see these things differently but I am repeating a grievance that many forum users have expressed to me. No rules, just opinions
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Why keep flagging up cars for sale when people who use this forum are bidding on them and dont want the competition to multiply!
This section of the FORUM is titled: SALES & AUCTIONS, with a short description of what is expected to be posted here:
"Have you spotted a microcar on ebay, or at a private auction or sale? Tell everyone about it!"
He is just following the guidance given and now getting grief for doing so.
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calm down folks , it looks like its been removed !
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Saving said £250 odd, and no doubt to a buyer who has been in touch rather than a day dreamer. Either that or portents suggest no serious punters at the price envisaged, not that I would know what that is. Or as Root has it 'The old Hitchcock, Devil take the hindmost, sales strategy'! - learned in part from one M. Cooper.
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Why keep flagging up cars for sale when people who use this forum are bidding on them and dont want the competition to multiply!
This section of the FORUM is titled: SALES & AUCTIONS, with a short description of what is expected to be posted here:
"Have you spotted a microcar on ebay, or at a private auction or sale? Tell everyone about it!"
He is just following the guidance given and now getting grief for doing so.
Yes Jim but we didnt design the web site and just because that section exists doesnt mean to say we all have to like it. I personally would replace it with a section for forum users to advertise there own items for sale. Not flag up everything you see on evilbay. Its very annoying to those of us actively looking to expand our collections. Obviously designed by someone who isn't.
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hold on here it seems like every thing I do on here is WRONG ..........DO U LOT JUST WANT ME TO F**K O**
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No, of course not! Forum users are going to have opinions and they are never always going to be the same.
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Rite I c well with regards to who ever wanted to buy something that gets advertised on here via ebay or gumtree etc shouldn't really worry bout the 500 also members as much as the billion ebayers that watch ebay etc like a hawk .....yes you are entitled to an opinion and I can agree to a point ..
its on ebay correct, its on facebook correct, its on here correct, its an auction your bidding against the world........
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thank god lol I thought this was going to be the clash of the titans or rocky balboa and mr t ;D
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I for one like the notion of Forum members flagging items for sale, not just from E-bay but other sights also.
As you say Bob you have talked to many who don't like this section of the forum page, I've talked to many people who do 8)
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Mulling it over I think notification of sales is one of the main reasons I like the Forum. I have little interest in proceeding to buy any of the things advertised these days, but the massed eyes see far more than I do, and I enjoy looking at what junk people dig up and sell, what for, and how many times! Its Micro gossip of a high order.
Moving on from that, what we do lack is an area that has no marque affiliations, that offers us as a factual resource area for where stuff gets done, restorations, casting, tyres etc.
You can argue that here within the threads is a mass of information to aid people who want reference data to help them. However its not in an easy to find form. There is clearly a limit on how far you can cross reference, as someone has to do it. All such great ideas founder, as no one with the requisite skills, has the time they wish to give.
But certainly a page of Microcar contact details for clubs, spares sources, good restorers, and even marque experts who are approachable, would be a worth while.
In the same way there should be a premier events listing page, which should default to be THE place to look for micro friendly events. There are few organizations who actually offer a natural place for these important initiatives. Then a thread, like an invite to a Rally in Phocle Green, or Messymans ability to supply a number of Messerschmitt spares, stands out for all to find easily, until such time the information is out of date.
(For years it seems quite a few organizations have relied on me to collate dates, left over from running AUA as a service to enthusiasts. With my reduction in interest in Microcars and the difficulty in getting info I am not doing this anymore. The evidence suggests folk are not really interested, frankly, and the events need to re-learn to advertise themselves, so as to bring in as many owners as possible. The negativity and rudeness I have had over the last months has nigh on finished my interest in getting involved. I will promote what I think could be fun and attend myself, but the secret Microcar rallies can remain so. Hatton has legs, could pull in many non aligned owners if advertised well, so go for it and I plan to be there).
Without continued flirtation, then, on the thread, Messeymans Schmitty offers sink into the mire of many and varied facts of greater or lesser importance. In other words to promo on the forum at present is to operate a blog, a little like the Fisk Peel build. A great deal of work, less easy to find for none regulars, and possibly an irritation to some, just as IC news was.
I would add all the different pubnights to that listing page. I bet a few go off locally to people on this forum, who have no idea they do, as they are not in the right club to be told. Such an informative, undemanding, and even handed page of good info would, I think, bring a lot of new viewers to the website making the effort to build it, and possibly to any associated forum itself there to collect the information. Again waiting for feedback from Clubs with no PR is to have out of date information. Of course the info pages reach and accuracy is its own standard bearer. An in depth, accurate, and broad one, will win the prime viewing world wide, and thus the associated media recognition as a resource. In itself a feed back loop (As Dave H has achieved with the Trojan Trust, a far smaller interest topic). If I were to create a service microcar website this would be core to its structure, but I am not.
The question of carrying advertisements is a whole different subject. I am happy with the advertising mediums available and telling the Forum where the ad is. Since RUMcar is only one of the more integral parts of a fractured national interest, it currently does not offer a one stop shop for advertising anymore than the other elements, who claim specialist market position, nor was it set up with that in mind. So I only see a possible move to re-organise longer living information to a resource area, where it is easier to find. More than that requires a fairly major commitment from somebody to take up some sort of service, as suggested above.
No action leaves Messeyman to keep his offer of spares live, or it falls out of sight. Might not seem important till you want to save a few quid on schmitty bits and he is not there, as he had insufficient support. Been there, done that, fortunately still got the bits which are now worth an awful lot more!
I have a slight vested interest and am just buying some more, mainly, schmitty stuff this week. I think it is set to get expensive, or hard to source, shortly. It will then be time to open up again and clear the decks of much Micro stuff. Would love to do an autojumble stand, but I think only Germany offers an economic return for the effort. Telling in itself.
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I for one like the notion of Forum members flagging items for sale, not just from E-bay but other sights also.
As you say Bob you have talked to many who don't like this section of the forum page, I've talked to many people who do 8)
Well there you go. You had better flag up the rare 1949 Bond MkA that they are all keeping quite about. Be prepared to be very unpopular with those currently bidding on it though.
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Al, the solution has already been offered many times over, set up a blog or web page add the wares to it and post a link in the articles for sale section. Its not hard to do!
The other glaringly obvious point is that Rumcars exists to support the rarer microcars, those without a one make club so Schmitts fall outside of that catchment anyway. Most of us love to jaw about all makes on the forum but from the administrators stance schmitts, Bonds, Heinkels, Isetta's dont even come into it.
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Regarding the Mark A. It has not met its reserve and i suspect the seller knows its worth. It is a massive restoration and whoever takes it on is going to throw a lot of money at it. I used to give eBay item numbers on this forum but stopped after i realised it made it easy for the cars to be exported. Occasionally i still mention an item but do not give a link. At least we know another Mark A will be restored, i just hope it stays in England.
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Al, the solution has already been offered many times over, set up a blog or web page add the wares to it and post a link in the articles for sale section. Its not hard to do!
The other glaringly obvious point is that Rumcars exists to support the rarer microcars, those without a one make club so Schmitts fall outside of that catchment anyway. Most of us love to jaw about all makes on the forum but from the administrators stance schmitts, Bonds, Heinkels, Isetta's dont even come into it.
First para, Just as I pointed out. The default position now and it works after its fashion. Not a huge help to Messyman. But it need not be that way.
Second Para, This is a 'you first, John' argument. Again, it works after a fashion, but there are better ways.
Besides which, Smith's Isettas, Officially Invalid altered KR200, LHD Bonds abroad, RHD four wheeled Trojans. Who speaks for them? Two of those are reported outside club remit due to entrenched views. Boy do the Brits like their fences, with gates to suit the few. No key, not my problem. Well its somebodies, as the news is the hobby is clearly in decline, if rallies are anything to go by. Now Richard will accuse me of being negative, I fear. But it really is not my problem anymore. Not saying its yours either, mind you. Its an observation to which no one is responsible directly, unless they want to be. To make a difference. You have Moped fun, I look forward to the Borg. We have other options. Perhaps to many of us do. (I notice a moped run occurring locally at Stanford in the Vale, Hmm....)
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All clubs and organisations have parameters. I wouldnt go to the BOC and ask for help with my Isetta and so on...
As observed, the general forum user is pretty much willing to be helpful to owners of all microcar makes and I think we can be proud of that but from the administration end I quite understand why lines have to sometimes be drawn.
Personally I wouldn't mind at all if Rumcars evolved into a general microcar circle like the Maniacs but without taking the form of a club and all the woes that that entails. For now, it is what it is, we have a lively forum and an excellent magazine but who knows what the future of Rumcars will be?
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I've done my blog for like minded people to read and enjoy I didn't mean it to be an irritation , I know I bombard people with pictures but that's easier for me than explaining what I've been up to, i thought thats what a car forum was all about
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And I, for one, am enjoying reading it, Steve. Do please continue!
(I have no hope or intention of ever having a Peel, but it's interesting to see the problems you face and - particularly - how you solve them.)
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Steve, if people were not enjoying your posts you would not have had the positive response you have had. Keep it up till its finished.
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I think Steve's is the only thread that has become a blog. I was short of any other example. It is not an irritant, as far as I know. Many other forum have a multitude of plogs. You participate in that as, when, and if you like. Its good stuff.
The future can be what anyone wants it to be, if they work at it. Very true. Ideas in action trump most things. Just ideas are little more than seed. My fav is a British Microcar Club to pull the bits together. Not going to happen though, I think.
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fascinating :-X
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Whether it interests us or not, as Steve is just about the only youngster taking an active interest in microcars that we have right now he should be getting maximum encouragement. The skills he is learning whilst building his special will set him in good stead for when he graduates to classic microcars.
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Thanks for support !
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lol whilst spitting my coffee out all over my laptop bob I am 31 years old ive bin doing bubbles and micros since I was 15 years old ,big al will vouch for that ...so 16 years of playing with toy micro machines don't count lol
ive worked hard to get where I am lol
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You mean to say I'm no longer the baby of the bubble world at the age of 33 !?! ;) Mind you, I've only been around here for 13 years so I'm still a veritable newcomer.... ;D
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ive worked hard to get where I am lol
'So have I. I wish I had not bothered!' Eeyore Engineering. I like Eeyoreisms.
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You mean to say I'm no longer the baby of the bubble world at the age of 33 !?! ;) Mind you, I've only been around here for 13 years so I'm still a veritable newcomer.... ;D
Babe to old git in a year. Only Microcars offer such opportunities.
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As far as I can tell Messyman you need no encouragement though you surprise me, I assumed you were an old geezer! :D Young Steve is brand new to it so still needs our encouragement.
As far as Stuart is concerned, I think will always need mollycoddling by someone.
I guess the other youngster is Jamie but he seems more interested in Landrovers and Ginetta's right now.
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haha ok I will admit im not clued up on everything but I no enough to survive lol no I don't need molly rubbish just medical help due to taking on probably helpless carcuses .....I cant say if theres any molly stuff going on with others ''so called molly stuff ''
as you probably think of my projects being CRAP I see it as Carefully Recycled Antique Products that's a difference in thinking.....buy something that's cheap beyond repair and make something up to original spec
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You obviously havent seen what my cars were like before restoration then. My schmitt was delivered in the tea chest! ;D
Lets mollycoddle the cars instead.
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LOL U HAVENT SEEN MY FIRST SCHMITT WHEN I GOT IT HENCE Y IT WAS FREE
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THERE YOU GO BOB SEE IT IN DISCUSSIONS SECTION WORST RESTO, LETS HAVE A LOOKY
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Would you mind rephrasing that it English?
Is it just me or is it getting harder and harder to understand peoples posts these days, we have Als criptics, Plasmans made up words like plas, mini mill, plaggy? What does it all mean? And all the texting language.
I need a translator, am I the only one struggling here? :-\ Maybe Doric isnt such a bad idea! ;D
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lol your age is showing pretty well
here you go
http://www.urbandictionary.com/
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SORRY MY ENGLISH FADES WHEN MULTI TASKING
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Hi, Messy
Why are you SHOUTING?
(It makes it hard to work out what you probably meant, when it comes over as so aggressive.)
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lol if I was aggressive id have no laptop ....lol no I just forgot to take the caps lock off ;D
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with you bob - all the way ;)
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playful banter