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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: jjej27 on December 29, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
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Hello, I was wondering if anybody knows were I could find an owners manual for a Lloyd LP 400, with a main interest on the engine and transmission? I am specifically looking for a pdf or digital version. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Josh
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Hi josh there are I think only 2 members of the forum who may help you on this one . One goes under the name of - oops cannot recall . He owns an LP400 Lloyd . I have hard copy a workshop manual for such , I don't think a handbook was printed in English, the full workshop manual copy I could copy for you as I have German or an English translation - where are you ?
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As far as I know no Lloyd 400 cars were exported to English speaking countries so no workshop manuals were printed in English hence the computer translated copy
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Hopefully Richard will have sorted you out, but here's a link to the German Lloyd Friends website in case you've not come across it.
http://www.lloyd-freunde-ig.de/index.html (http://www.lloyd-freunde-ig.de/index.html)
And a couple of other useful looking websites.
http://www.lloydselig.com/index.shtml (http://www.lloydselig.com/index.shtml)
http://www.lloyd-freunde.de/ (http://www.lloyd-freunde.de/)
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thanks very much for the prompt Malcolm , last time i tried a few years ago i had a great deal of difficulty finding any English speaker . I did get the translated workshop manual unofficially from a helpful committee member , i also met up up at Mannheim and collected ordered parts but could not communicate with the man who brought them to me :) i have this morning emailed , in pidjin German , the English page of the 2nd listed site of yours - thanks again .
Josh an example page of the computer translated manual is attached
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The Australians imported a lot of Lloyds and assembled knock down kits, bit like with Buckle and Goggomobil. Did they not have the 400?
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No Al only the 600 , a very different 4 stroke motor and Arabella and other 4 strokes . The 250/300 2 stroke was the first Lloyd known i think as the elastoplast bomber , or similar , due to its odd body composition perhaps akin to the Trabant . Anyhow a larger 400 motor and steel body followed . Then bigger production in all ways with 4 strokes and world markets , the 300/400 were i think home trade only
here's the fearsome LP400 in action :) me thinks my Bruetsch Pfeil may look better than it will sound ;) at the moment it is very quiet indeed ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaayX7erv5M
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Ah, probably could not compete with the amazing Goggo......
Pity, as there would have been English info. Has Ian Cave got anything?
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Ian Cave ?
on second thoughts the other UK based Lloyd LP400 owner may have been the one who provided me the English translation , yes I think it may have been . Josh if you search members at the top of the page and look for WILKSIE you could send him a personal message , he is not often here and a pm would appear in his emails , please keep me in the loop as Lloyd 400's are creeping in ;) and we ought to keep in touch
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Ian is the Lloyd fancier within the Borgward Drivers Club, which also covers Hansa, Goliath and Lloyd vehicles in Britain. One of the clubs that I suspect never gets told about microcar rallies etc these days, but caters for microcars. Only been around for yonks and some fine folk involved in the past. Ho hum.
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I never knew there was such an outfit or person so will try and contact him . As far as I know there are but a handful of 400's in the country . That beautiful bright red Lloyd 600 turns up at most Nationals but receives little encouragement i fear
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A nice quick reply from the webmaster Mike in most excellent English and saying they can help with engine spares mainly . Last time I tried it was all snail mail :)
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Thanks for all the advice and replies! Richard, I know a tiny bit of German, but I do have family that speaks German fluently so they can help in that regard. I will contact Wilksie as you suggested. The only issue for me is that I live in Ontario, Canada, so that may complicate things. I only have the drive train, and not the whole car, so that is why I am focused on the engine and transmission manuals and don't necessarily need the entire owners manual. If it is possible to get a copy of the english translation, or the german version of the manual (only for the engine and transmission so it doesn't take up more of your time then needed), I would greatly appreciate it. I would most definitely like to stay in contact because Lloyd's are one of my favourite microcars and I would like to own the whole car at some part, but for now, because of financial reasons and extreme rarity in Canada, I have to settle for the drive train and learning from there.
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Personal message me with your personal email . Willkie is also bi-lingual ( it's not illegal here anymore :) ) I too only have the drive train as its used in my Bruetsch Pfeil - Google it
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That beautiful bright red Lloyd 600 turns up at most Nationals but receives little encouragement i fear
Fear not Richard, Udo Jurgens who owns the Lloyd Alexander TS has been a regular attender for the last 11 years partly due to the warm welcome he receives. His wife originates from Nottingham so they co-ordinate their visit so he can attend the NMCR whilst she is seeing family.
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Just couldn't bring his name to mind thanks and nice to hear that . He speaks little English but we have probably the same conversation every year . Me " nice car Udo , lovely to see you again " Udo - " and how is yours ?" Me " it's kaput Udo "! :)