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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: eaurouge on May 11, 2015, 08:35:42 AM
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Being of that ilk I have bought a lovely Lambretta William (yes the one on ebay, yes I paid too much/wow you got that cheap/whatever :o)
But the Propshaft rubber is massively perished.. so looking to change it, anyone know what it is off? Fiat 500?
I will be joining the register, only sent the email yesterday.
I will be registering it for the road...
I will be using it for fun 8) once it is all working lovely!
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Welcome!
Sorry I cannot help you but reckon someone will soon be along with advice.
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Welcome , some times you've just got to bite the bullet and spend the money or just not own one so well done , put some pictures up please
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It will be interesting to see how you get on with the DVLA registering it as I recall someone having difficulty before, something to do with type approval? It may have been resolved by now. There are quite a few owners here so advice will be here soon no doubt.
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no problem registering anything. and we are experts at nova system too. we offer this service to all.
sales@v1twn.com
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Do you have to go through the msva test ?
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Hi eaurouge unless you have had a personal message I don't think you have had an answer ? Try using the search function for Willam and you will possibly find an historic posting from an owner then pm them . They may not be using the forum at present but would get an email . Oh by the way it's a Willam surely not a William ? Search for correct spelling ? Oh I dunno knowing our forum >:(
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Hope it's lots of fun and look forward to seeing some pictures. I'm sure someone else would have mentioned it before now if the Lawil vehicles shared any transmission components with the Lambretta Lambros?
http://www.scooterrestorations.com/lambretta/sec-29-10-lambro-200-transmission/ (http://www.scooterrestorations.com/lambretta/sec-29-10-lambro-200-transmission/)
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Thanks, even looks like the right part just out of stock grr!
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You need to get hold of Scootashaun who is on here occasionally. He has put one on the road in England. Being an MOT expert he knows the score.
Search for him in the members section.
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MOT is fine I know many testers... but yep just a case of working it all out!
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Thanks, even looks like the right part just out of stock grr!
I don't know if they are correct, that was a pure guess! But if it is the right thing, there are these on Italian ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INNOCENTI-LAMBRO-200-450-500-550-N-Elastic-Drive-Coupling-GEAR-GIUNTO-ELASTICO-/131445507893 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INNOCENTI-LAMBRO-200-450-500-550-N-Elastic-Drive-Coupling-GEAR-GIUNTO-ELASTICO-/131445507893)
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Indeed I think it is, but spending that much on a guess is tricky!
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Just speak to another owner simple ;) and really you just join the RUM and Alastair can put you in touch with others
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Looks like an Isetta one to me. May be worth checking the dimensions.
I have one of the three arm drive couplings on the shelf from an Isetta and the holes measure 67mm apart approx from centre to centre. Worth checking.
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Does anyone know the hole spacing for the Isetta one?
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I have often wondered about the Lambretta connection regarding engines. I have never seen the early Lambretta version until I spotted one on eBay. My Lawil has a two cylinder BCB 250cc engine. Other newer Willams have a 125cc single cylinder version of the BCB engine. Big Al talked about a different engine in the Crayford UK version (no pictures).
The Willam on eBay is an early one and shows a much more 'Lambretta style' Engine.
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Yep, just crawled under the Isetta for you and its 35mm hole centre to hole centre.
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It is one of the Roto-flex sizes that includes Imp, Lotus, Triumph. Land Rover.
Crayford has a Ducati twin of 250cc with a governor. Do not recall the date off hand 1972?
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In case this is of any use, a Hillman Imp one measures 8.5cm Diameter across from hole centre to hole centre.
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Isetta one looks the right one... 34mm hole to hole.
Think the Imp one might be too big!
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You will also need to check the bolt hole diameter. My measurement was approximate, under the car with a tape measure. Shame its not the Imp one as they appear to be only £25!
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Just looked at your pictures, your arm hole centres look about 60mm where as the Isetta one is about 67mm, I think the Isetta one is too big as well.
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Thanks, will measure it properly soonest!
Sadly the imp is 84mm between centres....
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It is one of the Roto-flex sizes that includes Imp, Lotus, Triumph. Land Rover.
Crayford has a Ducati twin of 250cc with a governor. Do not recall the date off hand 1972?
Are we talking about one and the same thing Al. I was lead to believe that the BCB engine in a 250cc Lawil is Ducati - or is there a different one?
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Thanks, will measure it properly soonest!
Sadly the imp is 84mm between centres....
I need a new drive coupling for my Isetta so if anyone knows the best quality ones available (at a reasonable price) please let me know. Tried and tested.
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I have often wondered about the Lambretta connection regarding engines. I have never seen the early Lambretta version until I spotted one on eBay. My Lawil has a two cylinder BCB 250cc engine. Other newer Willams have a 125cc single cylinder version of the BCB engine. Big Al talked about a different engine in the Crayford UK version (no pictures).
The Willam on eBay is an early one and shows a much more 'Lambretta style' Engine.
OOH, a proper Lambro engine,
Bring on the TS1, Monza's and RB's 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9vAz16ZsKU
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I do not know, Barry. The car is still trapped in deep storage behind a Saab and a dismantalled 850 sq ft 4m high oak shed. I have no reason to suspect it differs from the period fitted Ducati 250 twin Lawil offered at the time, assuming they did offer one. They certainly did later. The engine is a V twin and looks like a generator, or boat, unit to me. It is too powerful for the chassis, so is limited. I believe Graham Walker removed the governor from his and found it would do around 70 mph. if you were brave enough. The short wheelbase makes it very twitchy at speed.
I believe Crayfords number 5 known. Certainly one 250cc SWB has left the country, I think possibly two. I do not know which models they are that are left, either.
Crayford were, of course, linked to Trojan. Trojan were Lambretta Concessionaires. The mystery, therefore, is who made the Mink, since it would have needed Trojan approval, yet Peter Agg said he knew nothing about it. Strangely there might be a link on the Mink to the Ladybird. It would explain the thinking behind the Mink, and fits in with the notion there was more than one Ladybird. A snowball of snippets, there, coming in on the side.
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Sounds very interesting Al. A V twin is nothing like the 250cc BCB parallel twin engine. Best you get your climbing gear on and take some photos quick :)
Two stroke?
Perhaps it is time to send that worthless neglected Crayford to Suffolk? I can help.
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Attached is a pic of mine.. still on the trailer as the prop is out at the moment waiting on making/finding a drive coupling...
Did take lots of pics, but then I left the camera at someone elses house... :-X
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Nice :)
A photo of the engine would be good.
Unfortunately, I cannot have a look at my Drive as the car is in Lincolnshire.
I dont think it uses rubber couplings so yours is likely to be an early car. However, the 10" wheels dont suggest a very early car.
Denis' website has a lot of info.
http://www.microcarfan.com/index.php/marques/74-willam