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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Scootacar_mk1 on June 22, 2015, 12:43:49 PM

Title: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: Scootacar_mk1 on June 22, 2015, 12:43:49 PM
Anyone know who is behind this venture?

http://p50cars.com/
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: DaveMiller on June 22, 2015, 03:00:17 PM
Intersting website:  artistically brilliant, but in practical terms awful.

No mention of who or where, no indication of any contact details other than contact via the web.

Could be a scam run from Nigeria, for all we know!
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: richard on June 22, 2015, 03:12:59 PM
Beautiful site  :)
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: Big Al on June 22, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
Nigeria might be more reliable for lost value of money.

The electricery version persuades me that this might be the Hillman version again. But then I do not know what the underpinnings look like, which would be the give away. Nicely presented site otherwise.
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: eaurouge on June 22, 2015, 05:04:16 PM
Only thing I would say is no phone number or address.. tread carefully! (Actually an address is required if you are selling on you site by EU law....)
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: Big Al on June 22, 2015, 06:48:43 PM
Interesting. But if your not in the EU they cannot pursue you if they find out your address. Rather reinforces the lack of comeback in trading with a black hole supplier. Yet not trading from anywhere is a good business model for a mail order trader. Mail order means no visitors, you are in your banking tax jurisdiction. That can be helpful. In practice it seems a hard way to operate. Some infrastructure is normally required to get things done.
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on June 22, 2015, 08:10:16 PM
You can look up ownership of the domain on

http://www.uwhois.com (http://www.uwhois.com)

Not that it helps much

Registrant Name: Identity Protection Service
Registrant Organization: Identity Protect Limited
Registrant Street: PO Box 795
Registrant City: Godalming
Registrant State/Province: Surrey
Registrant Postal Code: GU7 9GA
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.1483307527
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +44.1483304031
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: p50cars.com@identity-protect.org

Looking at the site though it looks exactly like I recall the information being set out on the website for the guys from Dragon's Den
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: AndrewG on June 22, 2015, 11:21:20 PM
Quote from: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker)
Registrant Name: Identity Protection Service
Registrant Organization: Identity Protect Limited
Registrant Street: PO Box 795
Registrant City: Godalming
Registrant State/Province: Surrey
Registrant Postal Code: GU7 9GA
Registrant Country: GB

I suspect the true owner of the site is We Want To Do A Runner Ltd

This web site has been there for a while, hasn't it?
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: p50fan on July 22, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
Hello all
I'd like to introduce myself, I'm Jim, I'm the owner of P50cars.com.

Thank you for your comments regarding my site, it is still a work in progress but I hope to add more information to it very soon.

I'd like to dispel a few myths, 1) I'm not the Hillman 'Peel Engineering' Co. 2) nor am I Nigerian, not that I'm saying there is anything wrong with being the latter  :)

I've posted a video of one of my P50s fitted with an original DKW engine at a classic car show last weekend, I hope you like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcFH_lwpBZA

Jim  :)
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: steven mandell on July 23, 2015, 12:43:01 PM
Hello all
I'd like to introduce myself, I'm Jim, I'm the owner of P50

I've posted a video of one of my P50s fitted with an original DKW engine at a classic car show last weekend, I hope you like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcFH_lwpBZA

Jim  :)
Where's the smoke?
Are the synthetics really that smokeless?
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: p50fan on July 23, 2015, 02:34:10 PM
Thanks Bob for the warm welcome.

Hi Steven, yes the modern synthetic oils are good, not that good tho, unfortunately  :)
I think the lack of visible smoke on the video may be due to the bright sunshine and strong breeze on the day.

It also is probably running a little lean on oil as I haven't run that P50 for a number of months and the fuel may have separated in the tank.




Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: Rob Dobie on July 23, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
Good luck with your venture Jim. I sometimes wonder why I didn't think of making copies of my two P50s in 1976 including EME 583B, the Top Gear car.
Rob.
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: p50fan on August 12, 2015, 11:39:48 AM
Thank you Rob, it's been allot of hard work to get to this stage.
I think Bob's right, the value of the originals at the time wouldn't have justified it.
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: milnes on August 12, 2015, 10:22:41 PM
Sharp and slick Website Jim. So what price will the P50 be sold for? Any plans for other replicas?
Title: Re: http://p50cars.com/
Post by: p50fan on August 27, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Hi Milnes, thank you, we've tried to make the site look as good as the cars we build, hopefully it does them justice  :)
Still allot more information needs to go up on it though, just need to find the time to add it.

Our P50s sell for £8,499 inc. VAT, this price is for a fully road legal (4 stroke petrol or electric) tested and registered vehicle.  It's also offered as a self build P50 kit starting from £2,999 inc. VAT.
Although it's not on the site yet there are a very very limited number of original 2 stroke DKW engined P50s in production, again fully road legal.

Yes, a Trident is very much in the works, like the P50 it'll come in both fully built and kit versions.

At the moment we are also looking into producing replacement parts for other microcars.
I spoke to a few people at the Hammond collection open day about producing Scootacar rear lights, as I believe they are becoming very rare.
We are very keen to help other microcar enthusiasts out with their restorations whether with parts, painting etc.