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General Category => RUMCar Mart => Topic started by: Villiers on May 10, 2016, 05:04:18 PM
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Hi,
I have a Villiers 9E engine from presumably a Frisky microcar. I can't find the confirming information if it is indeed a Frisky Family three engine.
The engine number is 482B/717 and is 197cc, single cilinder.
From the picture's i have seen it look exactly the same.
Anyone can confirm this based on similarities with engine numbering?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ard
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I'll check mine tonight for your reference.
How about posting a pic of yours for comparison?
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It is in storage at my uncle's farm, some 150km south, so this is all i have for now.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm29/Hard_Ospers/1_zpszuxflbov.jpg) (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/Hard_Ospers/media/1_zpszuxflbov.jpg.html)
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Going by the photograph, I would say that its not Frisky. Probably more likely to be from a Scooter as the coil is bolted onto the cooling fan
and its does not have a reversing Dynastart. Also that the hand throttle or choke would suggest its out of a Scooter. What model does it say on the Villiers maker plate ?.
Mr Meadows will be able to confirm the Frisky Family 3 series of engine numbers but from memory 482B is not Frisky or Scootacar.
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Looks identical to the scooter one I sold a whileback , for all the reasons above . With modificationx it could be made suitable but a reversing invalid car 9e would be a better starting point wouldnt it ? I do like these cooling fan covers
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I am not sure about this motor but our Villiers 3T has 729B as the number for Meadows.
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Villiers Everybody's Engine by Rob Carrick & Mick Walker ISBN 9780955527845 list's 434B, 812B and 049D as 9E engine numbers and 648B and 729B as 2T numbers supplied specifically to H Meadows vehicles. Unfortunately it doesn't mention who they supplied 482B's to.
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Thanks for all the replies. I received an email from John Meadows and he confirms it is not a Frisky engine.
After some searching I think it might be a Bond P2 or a DKR Defiant engine. The coil on the cooling cover hints after a scooter.
I'm going to sell it anyway, since I dont own a microcar or a scooter.
Thanks again :)
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Anyone interested in buying, please note that the engine is in the Netherlands (as am I), shipping to other countries might be expensive.
Still interested? -> PM :)
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If it is a scooter unit, which it looks like, then the Lowland scooter collectors might be the best buyers. Folk like Philipe Olivier of Bruges area, Alain Urlings out near Maastricht. Just a thought.
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Thanks. How can i get in touch with them? Can't seem to find an email adres or phone number.
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Shipping anywhere in EU will be around 46 euro, with 500,- insurance. If it weighs less than 20kg, it drops to 35 euro.
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Thanks. How can i get in touch with them? Can't seem to find an email adres or phone number.
No longer in that circle, but they were very much key members of Belgium Scooters, vintage Scootering, as well as Microcars. Sadly the UK club system chooses not to talk to these people, not even telling them about our big Rallies, despite claims to advertise them, otherwise the info would be on hand.
Alain used to be the man behind the Limburg Club, I think it was.
So pages like those below from a Google search would seem appropriate.
http://www.vvvzuidlimburg.nl/te-doen-in-zuid-limburg/attracties-bezienswaardigheden/detail/scooterverhuur-limburg/9568
or for Phillipe
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/43417583880318982/
Not a member so cannot get full access to this.
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The U.K. Club system now there's another conspiracy I've not come across before but you'd better open up a new topic Al I would Like to know all about this one , but as usual way off topic 😀
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Thanks for the info :) appreciate it.
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Hopefully it answered 'Villiers' question constructively, and the obvious follow up question with a reason why the answer would be a unanimous 'Dunno', or was he off topic too, because it was a Scooter unit on a MIcrocar Forum?
The UK Club system is not apparently organised enough to create a conspiracy, unless its one of silence, which might be why you did not hear about it. ;D
P.S. I have been to a few Limburg Rallies, and visited Phillipe Olivier and Alain Urlings. Phillipe was actually working in the UK at the time. For a while a few folk went over to their events, we told them about our events, some come over here. We helped Mr Cassiman with his rare Belgium original Trojan restoration. But once left to the clubs, the link fell away. I wonder if any of the 'official' sources know what clubs even exist across the channel, nearer rallies to Southerners than the majority of British events these days. Oh, there is a conspiracy for you to play with, foreign competition, often close to a Bonders heart. Alain has a Bond Scooter, sure he has a Minicar or two. I am sure Phillipe will have a set. They have DKR, Natural potential customers for a relatively local engine. Naughty peeps though they might be in thine sight for owning Bonds without permission! :o
It was on one of those Limburg Rallies that my co attendee got caught out by an automated towel dispensing machine. It had a roll of towel. On being pulled it dispensed a section. Unbeknown it had a timer and then pulled the new used area into the discard roll. It did this trapping buds hands behind the towel, leaving him scrabbling, attached to the dispenser in a lovers grasp. Great hilarity was had at his expense. Foreign toilets, an adventure playground of fun! No camper-vans were damaged in the retelling of this amusing quip, totally and unashamedly off topic. Its a conspiracy!
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Someone asked me how many gears it has, but i do not have a lever to engage the shift-shaft. Can anyone tell how many gears it has from the engine number (or maybe the casings)? 482b / 717
Here is a link with pictures: http://link.marktplaats.nl/m1059564710