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Re: Very odd Goggo Dart!
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2011, 03:04:51 pm »
 Why do I look at that roof & think of the TZ Siizer (or whatever it was called) or is it just me?

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Re: Very odd Goggo Dart!
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2011, 05:27:04 pm »
Were Goggomobil Darts ever sold as hard tops?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Goggomobil-Dart-1961-micro-car-GOGGO-Project-NR-/300548342447?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item45fa13c2af#ht_2397wt_1141
Hi Mike,

  I beleive they were made with hardtops, read Bruce Weiner's description
http://microcarmuseum.com/tour/goggo-dart.html
'"A rear-hinged hardtop and the 400cc motor were also available"'

Stuart, I cant find any info on that car, it must have a different name.

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Re: Very odd Goggo Dart!
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2011, 11:59:33 am »
As far as I am aware the hard top on the Dart was never fixed in position but opened from the front in a reverse action of a Bond Bug. They are very rare. There was no prevision of a door as standard. A door was offered as an option but it was hinged at the bottom like a Lotus 11, not surprising as Stan Brown worked with Colin Chapman on that project before moving to Australia and producing the car buck for Buckle. One of my Darts used to have a door but it has been glassed in. I can understand why as while the Buckle floor-pan exhibits a number of extra body panels to stiffen it up over a Standard Dingolfing item the body-shell still needs to be rigid to add stiffness to the whole assembled body-shell/floor-pan. Interestingly I think some of the later 'kit' Darts created do not feature these modifications to the floor and might thus suffer from scuttle shake and movement in action. The car pictured has doors that do not match the aperture shape I have seen. I would therefore suggest some evidence would be needed to support a claim this car is as original.
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Re: Very odd Goggo Dart!
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 02:51:53 pm »

Stuart, I cant find any info on that car, it must have a different name.


 Ah, I did indeed get the spelling wrong. It's the TZ Sider I was thinking of. Here's a pic, but having looked at it, it's not a very close match to the eBay Dart. In fact the eBay Dart roof looks more like that of an early 1960s Mazda 360 couple now....

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Re: Very odd Goggo Dart!
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2011, 04:36:38 pm »
pic of the DART in question for reference that will remain after the auction listing disappears in a few months

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Re: Very odd Goggo Dart!
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2011, 06:43:29 pm »
pic of the DART in question for reference that will remain after the auction listing disappears in a few months


Dont worry Jim, I started an archive with all of the adverts, all the pics, description + original html page, so it never ghets deleted :)
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