A 1954 production car with fuel injection! Thats got to be special in its self Jean! Sorry but I really dont see what production figures have to do with it though. A big car doesn't change from being a big car depending on how many were made. I understand the purpose behind Rumcars taking in all the waifs and strays that dont have a club of there own and thats one of the things that makes it special and why I love it! I also appreciate that flexibility is applied to accommodate various vehicles and I was not seriously suggesting that A30's should be covered! The point I'm making in this very old debate is that the parameters set by a body of enthusiasts many years ago as to what defines a microcar are not carved in granite, people like myself and John are going to have there own definitions of what a microcar is, we also do have the right to express them and in my case a microcar is some thing that is very small as in "micro" not smallish, not small, not mini, but micro! Nobody should get upset about debates like this, forums are for expressing ones opinions and its amazing what one learns from others by debating these things, for example the correct pronunciation of Goliath ect. I'm amazed that with such a large membership so few people chip in.