I think thats the case in asia Colin but all these school of Bombay Scientific instruments look like they have been made by a child, bearing little resemblance to the real thing, most bearing the makers name Stanley even though Stanley's never made the things originally, one cowboy outfit narrowly escaped a law suit recently for churning out pathetic looking sextants all marked up with the name Kelvin Hughes on them not realising that the company is still trading! I propose that the makers and sellers of them all be put in a large boat in the middle of the pacific with one of there sextants and see if they can navigate there way home! I was recently approached with a fake divers helmet made in turkey, the thing had no valves on it, I suggested the seller try a dive in it first and if he lived I would buy it! As for our friends the Americans, most fail to understand the definition of the word antique, this is borne out by the fact that they call classic cars antique, don't you just lov em. Sorry if I sound bitter but all this scrap brass has almost put myself and other genuine dealers out of business, consumer confidence is now zero.