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villiers 11E scooters/ invacars / scootacars
« on: August 01, 2012, 08:35:51 pm »
sorry stuart thanks for the reference but i dont think any British Trials bike of the era had electric start - far too heavy ! also no trials bike would want fan cooling , so why choose an 11E . the catalogue or bike itself must have been incorrect .

 Villiers Singles & Twins by Roy Bacon only makes brief mention of the 11E :

The 9E continued in use for a good number of years with little alteration but was fitted with a revised gearchange in 1961. it also appeared as the 11E for scooter use and , in its various forms, ran on into the late 1960's. 

Question does anyone know what if any two wheeler or indeed three wheeler used the 11E , i can find no mention in my books of any two wheeler . there was reference on this forum of an owner being sure his scootacar was originally fitted with 11E and not 9E.
does anyone have pics of the 11E and cowling - thanks  :)
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Re: villiers 11E scooters/ invacars / scootacars
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 09:21:10 pm »
I don't know much about the Villiers engines but I suppose we need to start looking at the British scooters fitted with them.

Ambassador - 173cc
Bond P2, P3 & P4 - 197cc (& 150cc)
Dayton - 175cc, 224cc & 247cc
DKR - 147cc, 197cc
DMW - 175cc & 247cc
Excelsior - 147cc & 197cc
Harper - 197cc
Oscar - 197cc
Panther - 173cc
Phoenix - 147cc, 250cc (& 325cc)
Sun - 173cc
Wabo (Holland) 147cc


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Re: villiers 11E scooters/ invacars / scootacars
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 09:30:35 pm »
thanks but none i dont think had the 197cc 9E or 11E - did they



okay the Bond P2 and P4 used 9E  ;) but 11E ?
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Re: villiers 11E scooters/ invacars / scootacars
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 09:50:10 pm »
thanks but none i dont think had the 197cc 9E or 11E - did they



okay the Bond P2 and P4 used 9E  ;) but 11E ?

DKR was electric start?

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Re: villiers 11E scooters/ invacars / scootacars
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 10:25:00 pm »
thanks got that one now they did a 9E model and a twin - but still no 11E engined two/ three wheeler ? other than invacar of which i know nothing

found that DMW did also have 9E but still nothing 11E
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Re: villiers 11E scooters/ invacars / scootacars
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 12:10:17 am »
I can't find a reference to anything with an 11E listed as standard other than invalid carriages. FWIW the Bond P2 & P4, DKR Defiant and Progress 200 Britannia all had fan cooled 9E's. Anyone got the Mick Walker book on Villiers?
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 06:11:49 pm »
i don't know the mick walker is it a good reference book for those interested in 3 wheelers ? roy bacons books are very good but not really much help for us  :-\
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Re: villiers 11E scooters/ invacars / scootacars
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2012, 09:57:07 pm »
MkII scootacar
Cream Mk1 Scootacar

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2012, 10:01:06 pm »
i thought i had heard that but i cant see it anywhere in print - guess you know as it's your thing . thanks
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Re: villiers 11E scooters/ invacars / scootacars
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 09:05:15 pm »
MkII scootacar

Another curiosity from the small ads is one from 28 June 1962 from Motor Cycle. "Meeten's for Scootacars - See the new de luxe "Clover Leaf" 200cc"
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