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David Dale:
Hi, this is my first post, so I hope I get everything right when attaching the photos

I have some pictures of a prototype bubble car that may not be on the RumCars register. As my late father Jack Dale was involved in the team that made the car I would dearly love to trace it, if it still exists?  It would be great to see further pictures of it, or see it in the flesh.

The car is a Swift and was built by Southern Aircraft (Gatwick) Ltd.  I think the designer would have been my father's boss John Ernest Coxon.

From the pictures it appears to be powered by a twin cylinder 2-stroke Villiers engine (250cc ?) and has a central driving position, with two rear set passenger seats.  The car has gull wing doors and is of a GRP monocoque construction, with the steering and front suspension in one assembly and the rear suspension and power unit in another.

I think the car was built in the late 1950s and did not go into production due to the launch of the Mini and the cost of getting a glass manufacturer to tool up for producing the windows.  The prototype had Perspex windows and headlamp cowls.

There was a rumour that the prototype went to America, but I cannot be sure of that.

Please could someone let me know if the car is already on your register?

If it is not on the register, should it be put onto the register?   (I have no more details than the photos you see here and those I have shared with you from my memory).

Has anyone seen this car, or photos different from mine?

Does anyone know whether it still exists and its whereabouts?

Thanks for reading this and I look forward to your responses.

Regards

David Dale

richard:
really great , would love to know more

Bob Purton:
Its a new one on me! I wonder if Jean has any knowledge of it?
Regarding putting it on the register, the register is to record actual surviving cars so at this stage it would not be appropriate but let hope it turns up somewhere.
Thanks very much for posting. Most interesting.

marcus:
A new one on me too, but what what a great looking little car. I cannot provide any help, but hope more comes to light, and I am sure others here would do too.

David Dale:
Thank you all for taking interest in my first post on this forum and to contributing to it.

The main aims of my post were:

•   To share this car with you all
•   Perhaps discover its existence, or fate
•   To discuss the virtues of its looks and design

However, the discussion seems to have wandered off into whether it should be included in the register (no it does not meet the criteria), the paper archive (maybe one day, but not now for the prints are all I have), or a digital archive (I certainly hope so and the more the merrier! Thanks Barry for adding it to yours!).

Please can we get back to these main aims of my post and perhaps start another thread for discussing registers and archives?

To me the Swift looks to be a very attractive car and by virtue of the wheel placement, suspension and seating arrangements, should have been very good in the handling department.

Thanks Malc Dudley for the comment about the rear suspension looking similar to the Lightburn Zeta.  That is most interesting.

AndyL, I am sorry I do not know why it has a De Dion rear suspension at the back.

I am not aware of what parts of the car my father Jack worked on.  He worked for Southern Aircraft throughout WW2 and stayed with them to the early 1960s.  I am not sure if he worked there pre war.  He was a skilled sheet metal worker and was also a good welder and fabricator.  I attach a few pictures of a swinging arm rear suspension conversion that he designed for his 500 Ariel Red Hunter and made as a “homework job” at Southern Aircraft.  I would argue that the rear suspension design of the car has some similarities with my Father’s Ariel, which was made in the early 1950s and predates the car project.  But whether my Father was responsible for the rear sub-frame on the car is pure speculation.

My Father must have had a good working relationship with his boss John Coxon, for on occasions Mr Coxon would take him on flights, or should that be frights, in his aeroplane and these would often involve acrobatic stunts..........

I have also attached a faint photocopy of the side view photograph and it has been hand painted in light blue and what with this, and the appearance of the car in the black and white photographs, I wonder whether this prototype car was painted light metallic blue in colour.  What do you think?

I would welcome as much advice as you can give me into researching the whereabouts, or fate of this car.

Thanks again and regards

David

PS I hope the bike pictures are not breaking any forum rules.

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