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General Category => Microcar News => Topic started by: Peelpower on October 09, 2007, 12:03:52 am
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I just got an article from the german Mercedes vintage club, mentioned the St
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That's sad, I never got to experiance Story, but I'm sure there'll be other International events as interest develops.
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oddly enough, the Automuseum Störy website:
http://www.automuseum-stoery.de/
says that (translated), the Museum is being used for storing the cars. They are not for sale, all offers are useless!
of course it does not appear to have been updated since June 2003...
This is devastating news though. I had been to the Kleinwagentreffen in 1998, 2000 and 2002 and I met many wonderful enthusiasts.
I know others had been going for many many years before that, but I am grateful I was able to go at all.
I had my first (and only) ride in a Scootacar there. (Thanks Grant! hope your car gets fixed after the recent accident)
I also had my first (and only) ride in a NOBEL there as well (from guess who?)
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That is sad news! I attended twice including the final one, once with my first Inter and then with the schmitt, it was quite an experience and I too was hopeing it would start up again. What we need now is the european equivalent of Mr Bubblegum to buy up the collection and open elsewhere on the continent so that we all have access to the rare cars. I dont think Otto will be offering them to Mr Bubblegum, as I remember at the last Story event he was asked to leave the premises . Oh what memories!
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Bobbybubble, i don't guess Mr. Bubblegum has a chance to buy. The collection belongs to europe !!!
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...I dont think Otto will be offering them to Mr Bubblegum, as I remember at the last Story event he was asked to leave the premises . Oh what memories!
Otto never asked Bruce Weiner to leave.
Someone else told me that Otto had seen Bruce and his friend Martin walking around the Automuseum and counting the cars and this made Otto furious!
"It is NOT a CONTEST!" he apparently exclaimed.
What happened next was that Otto told Bruce's friend Martin to leave because he had been "tearing around " in the replica Tiger "too fast!" and Bruce decided to leave at that time too.
But the net effect was the same.
Oh what memories!
I wonder if Eberhard Hamm is still waiting for the "Big Bier" in the sky to rain down on him. (long story)
ONLY at the Stˆry Kleinwagnetreffen and Tractor Pull!
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Well Jim, Dont get me wrong, I like Bruce, he is a friend of mine but thats the story I heard and from the gum chewing horses mouth. Are you sure the Martin tearing around in the Tiger story was not a smoke screen for his embarassment? We all thought it was hilarious at the time and that included Mr Gum. I can just imagine Otto's exasperation at seeing them counting his cars, this morning I thought I had better count my own cars but when the count stopped at two I realised I was out of the running! Thanks Jim for the Story story , it could well be the true version!
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Are you sure the Martin tearing around in the Tiger story was not a smoke screen for his embarassment?
nothing is for sure when you have been drinking beer and eating bratwurst all day!
anyways, all we have are our memories now. or what is left of them.
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Jim. Out of interest, how many Inters are registered with the US vintage microcars club? I am trying to tally up the number of survivers. I know Ken did have two and Mario Palmer had one, Bruce has an unconfirmed number, can you shed any light? Any more fun memories of Story rallies? I remember running out of petrol on the autobarn in the schmitt on the way, not such a pleasant memory! I was rescued by the isetta owners club of Great Britain, the whole contingency traveling there in Smartcars, not a man jack of them in an isetta ,an absolute disgrace! Still, I was grateful for the half gallon of petrol donated by them. The other vivid memory was pitching my tent next to a big fat German who snored so loudly that the ground shook, after the first night I gave in and checked into a hotel! Oh the memories!
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Dear all,
After all rumors on the forum, Jean asked me for an official statement.
It is right that the collection is for sale. After unpleasant years with much trouble with the local authorities there is no motivation on our side to run the museum anymore. Just for keeping the cars there are simply too many. We will keep some cars for us and of course we will keep the good times (all the St
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dear all,
as my english is not as good as i want i could make some mistakes! but if i did understand about this collection we are looking for someone who will look after the museum somewhere in europe ! ??? if yes actually in my city ( LILLE IN FRANCE) we are close to have a museum of 80 vintage scooter and we could have some place to grow it with the microcar! so please writte to me to have more informations and to have an email to the orwner of the collection or the director of the collection to know what they are looking for and if our museum could interetest you all!
Lille is a big city and it is a good situation area to organiz a new microcar or vintage scooter meeting
best regards
pierrick
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Don't just stand there everyone, help the man out!....
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Stuart, tx 4 ur good will, but there is no chance anyway!
Ferdi
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Hi
If any of you have read the Discworld books by Terry Pratchett you will know that it is always the million to one shot that can become the dead cert.
Anything is worth trying, and France is as close as English enthusiasts could hope for.
I wish I had loads of money and space to offer
John
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Like most things in life I would imagine that its all down to who can come up with the spondulics [for our european contributors that means the money.] Thats why I said we need a eurobruce!
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Why does it have to be but one person? What's wrong with a co-operative?
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Dear Stuart
I am with you with that concept.
How about every member of the Register of Unusual Microcars buying a bond to become part owners of the collection. And then moving it to a suitable location like Greenhithe in Kent, on the cross roads of the M25 and the M2, next to Ebsfleet railway station (Eurostar link), and half way between Gatwick and Stanstead Airport to attract both UK and European visitors.
The Museum could be curated by one of us with input from each of us, depending upon our management skills. We could all lend or donate our vehicles and build a Microcar Museum better than the next best Microcar Museum in Europe.
I am sure that development money could be found from the Thames Gateway development funds to get the project up and running and generate some local employment. The shop could sell Tony M's books and back editions of Rumcar News.
I commend the idea to the house.
Chris Thomas
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What amount of money are we talking about? Are there any real (actual) numbers floating around? I'de be glad to put in my share.
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Sometimes it all seems so clear. But sometimes the most logical ideas are those that the crowd listions least to. Periodically over the 30 or so years that the micro world has been in existance someone would rase the idea of mass-merger upon mass-merger until every single micro club or Register in the country is under the same banner.
In short, a Unified Micro Movement.
If such a thing had happened back in the early 1980s. then theire would be no question of doubt today about doing anything at all. As I understand things, the idea failed then becuse of some organisations screaming about the "pureness" of their vehicles being diluted. Lets not open up the old arguments, but answer me this, why will such a thing not work? Most of us are members of several of the differant clubs at one and the same time. Is it becuse we are scared of each loosing that feeling of importance within our own little club, where we would only be one of the many within a big club?
Here we have a situation that few seem to recognise. The end of Automuseum Story which has been the very epicenter of the Micro world for as long as the Micro World has been around. On our own we can do nothing. Together we could do everything.
People are scared of change, but change is needed. The micro world is stagnant. Where will we be ten years from now? where were we ten years past from now? Lets not beat about the bush, the biggest argument is money. Some have more than others but the only FAIR way is for everything to belong to everyone. In a Unified Micro Movement everything really would be everyone. Again, tell me why it will not work.
We will talk about this for a few days, but as always, nothing will be DONE. People will write the idea off as too difficult. But to move forward means doing thing the hard way. Sometimes the current genaration has to do the work so that the future one can reap the rewards. Rember this though folks, years from now we may be asked; "We had the oppertunity, so why was nothing done?"
United we stand. Divided we fall.
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We will talk about this for a few days, but as always, nothing will be DONE. People will write the idea off as too difficult. But to move forward means doing thing the hard way. Sometimes the current genaration has to do the work so that the future one can reap the rewards. Rember this though folks, years from now we may be asked; "We had the oppertunity, so why was nothing done?"
I think you will need money. Lots of it.
And then you have to make sure you have the funds to MAINTAIN it.
This collection is not being given away to a good home.
It is being sold.
I suspect that if a suitable buyer is not found for the entire collection
(minus an unknown number of cars that they are either keeping or were on loan),
the remaining collection will go to auction and be sold piece by piece.
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I theory no problem, in reality no chance. You are talking of several Million to buy the cars, never mind transport then back to the UK and then find a suitable venue to accommodate them. I doubt that any of the cars that left the shores of the UK in the mid 70's heading for a new life at St
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Eurobruce, who could that be??
I rather like Störy at the old place where it belongs to i reckon!
At least this was the meeting point we all know and like for so many years.
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An admiral speach Stuart, you remind me of the young Castro. Fine motives but you forget who you are addressing, most of us own half a rusty invalid carrage and an overdraft! I think Jim is right. The collection will proberbly be broken up, its a shame and no one wants it that way but does not the fact that Otto is tired of all the bureacracy and the never ending cash layout just illustrate how impractical it would be for anyone else to take it on and remember,Otto has the building and the cars in place already, if he cant keep it going what chance do we stand!!! If the collection does get broken up its not the end of the world, the cars will not be destroyed, just spread about a little, RUM members may even be able to buy the odd example or two. Also who know who will come along in the future, in my short time of affiliation with the world of microcars Bruce managed to put together a collection twice over and just look at what the Coopers have done with nothing like the funds of our colonial cousin. History has a habit of repeating its self and my guess is that some wealthy micromessiah will proberbly appear. In the meantime how is this for an idea, why not build on what we already have, we have two museums/collections , RUM and the Coopers, could we be more supportive to these, loan our rare cars for exibit, organise more rallies from these places ect. To date nothing has yet in my opinion replaced the Story rally, could the national eventualy become that replacment if we really push it in europe?
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i havent even got a passport,so i will never have seen the museum anyway,but think about it,all the cars in Story will have been bought individually,so if they are to be sold individually,who cares?to be honest i think it is better for a great many people to have the chance to own and actually use and enjoy these cars than have them behind ropes in a building.Just my opinion. :)
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WOW! Snap with the passport and I even agree with Dan this time! ;D If my old Mk 2 Scootacar came up for sale I doubt if I could afford it now. :'(
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why not build on what we already have, we have two museums/collections , RUM and the Coopers, could we be more supportive to these, loan our rare cars for exibit, organise more rallies from these places ect. To date nothing has yet in my opinion replaced the Story rally, could the national eventualy become that replacment if we really push it in europe?
an excellent idea and certainly using the same Co-Operative Spirit that Stuart suggested.
Support what you have and try and expand on it rather than attempt to re-create something that is now gone.
What people mostly miss is the Kleinwagentreffen at Stˆry.
A number of people that attended those meets never even went into the Museum.
The Museum (and the camping facilities such as bathrooms and showers) served as a catalyst for people from around Europe to bond to.
It did not start out large, it started out small and grew over the years (like any collection of cars or people).
I do not believe that in this day and age it can be re-created.
But if you can distill down the reasons that it became so successful and popular, you can apply those to a modern venue and hope it works.
It will still take more money and time than you can imagine to pull it off.
Those of you who have organized an event know what I am talking about.
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Is there a website or book with photographs of all the cars, or even a list of the cars that the museum has/had?
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I have a 2-set DVD that will be ready in a couple of days that is a record of the 2000 and 2002 St
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Thanks Jim - must have read my mind! Is this likely to be available in region 2 DVD format or is it multiregion? Also although I'm sure I've seen a picture somehwere else, I'd love to know what that green vehicle is at the bottom left on the linked page?
Regards
Rusty
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Its in Region....I don't know what format.
I think it is "region - free" or multiregion.
It is not a commercially pressed DVD so I don't think the region is encoded.
But I guess I will find out soon enough!
The green car you refer to is an Austrian LiBelle owned by Dr. Norbert Mylius and it is on the DVD, looks like a grasshopper, sounds like a chain saw!
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If us in the UK can indeed view the film, mark me down as a firm order....
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Its in Region....I don't know what format.
I think it is "region - free" or multiregion.
It is not a commercially pressed DVD so I don't think the region is encoded.
But I guess I will find out soon enough!
The green car you refer to is an Austrian LiBelle owned by Dr. Norbert Mylius and it is on the DVD, looks like a grasshopper, sounds like a chain saw!
Actually when you see the rear half of the LiBelle it even looks like a chainsaw!!
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here is what the back of the LiBelle looks like:
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Thanks for the info and the extra pic. I'd agree it looks just like they fitted an entire chainsaw to the rear end and then draped a cover over it. You could strap a Peel P50 on the back in case it broke down. It would be nice to see exactly what lurks beneath!
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I couldnt resist shooting it at Story either!
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'Ere, where'd that Model 70 in the background come from? Who, what, where, when???????
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Stuart, im sure this photo was taken in the year 2002 in St
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oooh lovely! Has Norbert ever written anything about the Libelle? Any chance of getting him to do an article for RumCar News
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One more for luck!
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For Stuart,
N. Mylius published 2 Books. " Roller Rollermobile Rarit
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For Stuart,
N. Mylius published 2 Books. " Roller Rollermobile Rarit
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Also seen at Story 2000. Errr Whats all this then?
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And just to prove that me and old snoopy were there!
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This was made by a Berlin bloke. He said if im drinking and my wife is sitting by my side i'll tell the coppers she is driving. At least it was made for a joke. This car was modified and home made fitted with different rubbish.
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Thanks Ferdi, I had been waiting seven years for that explaination! Now it all makes sense. Were you there in 2000 Ferdi?
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And I thought it was a dual control learner vehicle! ;D
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Hi bobbybubble, yes i was there in 2000. I did go to St