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Re: Störy Automuseum sold?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2011, 05:21:03 pm »
Hey Nick,
we have to await what happens. Of course i asked Otto this question, he left the question unanswered.
I remembered him 2014 would be the 40th anniversary of the museum, and i dont have a bad gut feeling !
So let us have a look what they decide to do.
In my opinion it would be fantastic to mmet up all again.

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Re: Störy Automuseum sold?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2011, 05:22:11 pm »
i would agree with that sentiment nick . those that do need a camper could at least leave it off site and travel in by micro . it encourages campside chat and socialising in the bar - never needed encouragement myself  ;)
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Re: Störy Automuseum sold?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2011, 07:39:51 pm »
Being as Otto owns the land he can ban campers if he wishes. The event could be made invite only.  Just as we all could on our little plots of land. It would mark the event out as different but I bet there will be an influx of campers to facilities in the area. I guess that does not matter greatly save for an exodus in the evening as only the campers will be left on site. I still think that preferable to a lager of vans keeping the Indians out.

If the Museum moves into a public owned facility that would present something of a problem as there would have to be an area of public access not under control of Otto directly if the newspaper is to be believed.

However what the item would seem to be is pressure and publicity being made to gain backing and funds for an initiative to get the Museum open with participation of the town. It does not say it has Otto's backing. It seems to follow on from the word I had last year that the collection has been sold. However that could be Otto selling it to Otto in another guise. This would fit in with his getting older, the farm as a business and the fact he is indicating he still 'owns' a collection. After all when we went to camp in the orchard it was not a valuable collection. Now it has a value and enough to need protection from the taxman, inheritance etc. Speculation only to be confirmed by events.
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Re: Störy Automuseum sold?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2011, 07:46:22 pm »
"Ban camper vans" are you lot off your rocker?
Whats wrong with camper vans? Otto was pleased to have camper vans at Story,  he and Marianne  often came the UK rallies in their camper van.
This years NMCR would have been a disaster without all those camper vans, in fact the revenue raised from them was so great that without them the rally would have made a loss.  Besides that Alan, I remember you sleeping in your van at rallies in the past!!
Also the one wash basin provided at this years rally would not have been adequate if we had all been tenting.
Get a grip of yourselves and face up to reality, camper vans are part of modern society and in my view a welcome sight at microcar rallies.

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Re: Störy Automuseum sold?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 07:59:10 pm »
totally disagree trident but there you are . we all have our opinions . many the rally where by seven o'clock everyones watching tv . what i cant tell is if there were no camper vans would anyone be there ?
i am thinking that was has changed over the years maybe the age of those attending rallies .possibly as they get older they feel less inclined to " rough it " also perhaps those attending are more likely to have wives and or families with them l. better to be there en famille than not at all i suppose .
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Re: Störy Automuseum sold?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2011, 07:59:24 pm »
we have a similar approach at reliant rallies but not as draconian,ie if you arrive by Reliant you get £5 off your camping fees for the weekend,if arrive by non reliant(inc camper vans,you pay normal price.basically an incentive for people to come in theirs,rather than trailering or as is getting more common,just a normal car(cheaper than the caravan club etc) and also an incentive for people to actually use them and get more to turn up.

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Re: Störy Automuseum sold?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2011, 08:43:46 pm »
The last Story rally was in 2002. I was there and the field was full of camper vans. During the weekend the field was churned up by these heavy vehicles and I think I'm correct in saying that Otto was a bit annoyed.  Maybe allow camper vans, but make them park a couple of hundred metres away with normal cars,  so the main camping area is only micros & tents.
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Re: Störy Automuseum sold?
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2011, 09:43:58 pm »
"Ban camper vans" are you lot off your rocker?
Whats wrong with camper vans? Otto was pleased to have camper vans at Story,  he and Marianne  often came the UK rallies in their camper van.
This years NMCR would have been a disaster without all those camper vans, in fact the revenue raised from them was so great that without them the rally would have made a loss.  Besides that Alan, I remember you sleeping in your van at rallies in the past!!
Also the one wash basin provided at this years rally would not have been adequate if we had all been tenting.
Get a grip of yourselves and face up to reality, camper vans are part of modern society and in my view a welcome sight at microcar rallies.


  Did not say ban them. Chuck them off the event site to a peripheral area where they do not dominate. If folk wish to be boring and watch TV or go to bed early they can do it in private, not inhibit the rest of those present, whinge about noise, fill the bogs up with their effluent and get stuck. Besides it means far less disruption to the Farm as the tent city need less room and makes less impact on the soil.

  Otto touring in a campervan on a holiday is not the same as going to Story. As Nick says Otto was not greatly impressed at the state of the event site at the end of 2002 but then it was mainly folk camping who were left on site to know that and help clear up the mess which is telling in itself about commitment.

  We are not talking about the standard British 'microcar' rally we are talking of a hypothetical Story Rally. What modern society wants has little to do with it as an idealised event.

  It would seem we are not allowed to have even one event without being dominated by Campervans. If as many felt so hotly about really using their cars we would have some great rallies to attend. The fact is, your right, the events have changed and the modern events have little to offer the, now, minority who actually enjoy the camaraderie of driving to and from an event in the cars and either camping or using local accommodation. These guys are out of date and considered a bit weird and embarrassing even. Ultimately to organise against that group is a loss to Microcars, I would suggest, as it still contains a high proportion of people who are prepared to do things rather than arrive to be entertained. Now there is move away from pure Micromounted activity in this old hardcore group, frankly because they are fed up with what is on offer.  Who is to provide that entertainment? I do not make the rules up but I can see where it is going. I am sure there will be a series of campervan events folk will enjoy but it will not be an inclusively Micro activity as lots will not attend.

  Interestingly without the campervans we would not have been using the NMCR venue this year and would not have needed the large budget. We managed for a long time using camp sites and travelling out over the weekend even to the Sunday rally venue. It opened up many sites unavailable if you include all the support vehicles. You are just proving the damage the campervan and its demands has made to what used to be great fun and now is not such great fun. But I accept it is a lost argument. Adjustments are being made on that basis, though I reserve the right to join them later as I collect my old git credentials from the NHS for my leg. THe last laugh, hey ho!
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