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Seen these before?
« on: December 24, 2011, 04:53:38 pm »
Have you seen these pictures before?

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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2011, 10:02:23 am »
No! I will await the eventual answer once everyone has had a go.
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2011, 10:44:05 am »
Have you seen these pictures before?

I've seen the bottom one before, but not the other!
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2011, 10:52:05 am »
Hi,
The second one is an artwork of the three wheeler designed by André Morin, the "triporteur Morin". Mr Morin has only build one (he's still alive, he said it to my father and i) and we have it in our collection. Interesting thhree wheeler based on the french Scootavia scooter, build by Mr Morin too.


I never saw an exemple of the vehicule shown in the first picture. What is it ?
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2011, 10:56:17 am »
The upper one  has some bodywork missing. They were built to train pilots and navigators back in the 1940's, navigation using dead reconing. I think they were based on BSA bantem bikes.

The missing bodywork enclosed the rider with only a very narrow slot out through wich he could see, so he had to navigate a route around a course using direction and distance measurements.

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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 07:05:53 pm »
What great pictures, I love oddities!

My Dad was a Navigator in the Fleet Air Arm, training to go into active service during the Vera Lynn War; while in the docks waiting for the aircraft carrier to take him out to the Pacific, the Atom bombs were dropped on Japan and he was de-mobbed 3 days later. His most regular pilot was Laurence Olivier). He flew in quite a variety of planes including Fairey Swordfish, Albacores and Baracudas. He has some amazing stories of his times in FAA.

I will ask him if he recalls the BSA Navi-Trikes when I see him soon. Sadly a bad stroke and the most dangerous strain of Malaria has left him with a somewhat random memory so that when asked directly about something there is no memory, but if he sees something completely unrelated it sometimes jogs a lost memory. Pictures do sometimes get a response where words don't so I will show it to him. It is so nice when something does trigger his memory, so thanks for posting those pics!
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 07:43:44 pm »
The top one appeared at the Griffith Park Sidecar Rally in Los Angeles in 2006 where it was described as an "Antique French 3-wheeled trike". Here's another pic.
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 07:53:45 pm »
Cheers Mr Chrome!

Antique?
French?
3-WHEELED Trike?

Wot, as opposed to a 2, 4 or 5 wheeled trike?
No it's a THREE wheeled TRIKE, whatever will they think of next?

Wot a crazy world, a TRICYCLE with THREE wheels!  ;D

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 09:31:59 pm »
Cheers Mr Chrome!

Antique?
French?
3-WHEELED Trike?

Wot, as opposed to a 2, 4 or 5 wheeled trike?
No it's a THREE wheeled TRIKE, whatever will they think of next?

Wot a crazy world, a TRICYCLE with THREE wheels!  ;D



I've seen loads of 0 wheeler trikes before! My schmitt is has no wheels!

Here is a 4 wheeler trike.
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2011, 10:27:50 am »
Bob, a few years back my business partner's son got married in the oldest house in Dallas, about 120 years old if I recall correctly. Some there were talking about this lovely ancient building, but I could not resist mentioning that part of my Dad's old house was listed in the Domesday Book of 1086!
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2011, 10:41:50 am »
Antique?
French?
3-WHEELED Trike?

Wot, as opposed to a 2, 4 or 5 wheeled trike?
No it's a THREE wheeled TRIKE, whatever will they think of next?

Wot a crazy world, a TRICYCLE with THREE wheels!  ;D

We are back to the Mini Comtesse which is a 5 wheeled trike! Two of the wheels are not in permanent contact with the ground. Also a 4 wheeled motorcycle being the BMW based Swizz egg jobbie for the same reason. In both cases one wheel remains out of touch with the ground at all times. So how many wheels have they?
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2011, 10:44:04 am »
Bob, a few years back my business partner's son got married in the oldest house in Dallas, about 120 years old if I recall correctly. Some there were talking about this lovely ancient building, but I could not resist mentioning that part of my Dad's old house was listed in the Domesday Book of 1086!

Dallas is in Texas isn't it. I refer you to previous comment.
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2011, 10:51:21 am »
A child's bicycle with stabilisers is still a bicycle, not a quadricycle, so I reckon a Mini Comtesse is a tricycle* with stabilisers. Now the authorities might not classify it as such, because buffle-headed bureaucratic dandiprats all over the world seem immune to Logic and Common Sense, but to me Stabilisers are not "normally" in contact with the road, and are therefore not "road" wheels. Plenty of vehicles are prevented from turning turtle by their own body work, if projecting bodywork on a MC or Peel happens to have a rotating component so much the better!


* OK, a THREE-WHEELED Tricycle, just to be clear!
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2011, 11:52:39 am »
Cheers Mr Chrome!

Antique?
French?
3-WHEELED Trike?

Wot, as opposed to a 2, 4 or 5 wheeled trike?
No it's a THREE wheeled TRIKE, whatever will they think of next?

Wot a crazy world, a TRICYCLE with THREE wheels!  ;D



I've seen loads of 0 wheeler trikes before! My schmitt is has no wheels!

Here is a 4 wheeler trike.

But what would this 4 wheeler schmitt be? Its not a TG500, its a modified KR200 my dad built (all mechanical parts were original TG though)
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Re: Seen these before?
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2012, 09:05:09 am »
about the green trike, it looks like a TM Peugeot triporteur , or Monet-Goyon triporteur  , modified for invalid owner .. probably only one made ..
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