fastest micro?

[daughter of bamby]

does anyone know what is the fastest a microcar has ever travelled? is there a land speed record set for a 3 wheeler  of 50cc ?  if there isnt a record, then i may set the precedent at some point in the not too distant future.

[Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker)]

As microcars are a nominal group rather than a specific, precisely defined entity, I don't think you can have a land speed record for them. The fastest 50cc motorbike is currently the Buddfab Streamliner at 145.039 mph.

http://buddfab.net/buddfabhomepage.html

I think the fastest three wheeler is still the Spirit of America at 526.277 mph.

There is also that streamlined Messerschmitt KR200, not sure what records it broke or what other three wheeler has broken them since.

[Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker)]

Have a look at the FIA's site on records. There's a few in the A1 class held by Velam which I assume is the same machine shown on this site

http://www.whirlingpool.com/isetta/velam/

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/records/Pages/Introduction.aspx

[daughter of bamby]

the record breaking schmitt was somethin like 64 mph average over a 24 hr run, more an endurance than a speed record i would say,apparently anyone can create there own category in speed records,so i propose a 3 wheeler 50cc category,going to look into it with the various governing bodies but the plan is to build one of our 2/3rd schmitts as the record breaking car and see what dizzy speeds can be achieved over a measured mile.

[Peelpower]

I guess the fastest usual microcar is the fantastic FMR TG 500. Better known as " Messerschmitt TIGER "

[steven mandell]

I own a three wheeler with a verified top speed of 167 mph.  It's body  is quite compact and it's frontal area very small indeed, but with it's engine displacement a tad over 1000cc would probably not be considered a micro.

[Bob Purton]

Err, No, not in europe it wouldnt!

[steven mandell]

But could it be a mini?

[Bob Purton]

Hi Steven, What is the car out of interest?

[blob]

How about the Lloyd Roland, I saw it in action at Goodwood one year and it's certainly micro, but has a top speed in excess of 150 km/h - or 95 mph.

[Bob Purton]

That looks good Mike. I'm guessing its powered by a Lloyd but what cc is it?  I wonder if the Berkeleys would be contenders, the B95 was supposed to reach 95MPH and the B105 respectively although I think the 105 was powered by a 750cc Enfield constelation engine so thats over the limit if you accept the 700cc limit, I would still like to know which lawgiver set it at that and why.

[Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker)]

All micros would seem to fall into category A of the FIA's regulations. There they are split into several groups and classes determined by

1. Engine type: - 2 or 4 stroke, diesel or rotary (all with or without supercharger) or hydrogen
2. Engine capacity - up to 250cc, 250cc to 350cc, 350cc to 500cc and 500cc to 750cc.

Then for each of these sub groups there are individual records for at least 13 distances (from 1/4 mile to 1000 miles) and times (1hr, 6hr, 12hr or 24hr)

The Lloyd streamliner is still listed as the record holder for Group 1 (2 or 4 stroke with supercharger ) Class 1 (250cc to 350cc)  for both 5000km (70.930mph) and 5000Miles (69.660mph) both set in October 1959 and 24hrs (69.570mph) set in May 1954

there's more info about the Lloyd here
http://www.borgward-ig.de/cms/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=18&Itemid=66
or translation http://tinyurl.com/68r4elo

[blob]

Great pics of the Lloyd, still seems bigger then when I stood next to it, must dig out my photos...

I'm guessing its powered by a Lloyd but what cc is it?

Initially 350cc later improved to 386cc, more info here: http://classics.com/techno06.html

[richard]

omg !! Guess what engine drives my Bruetsch - the 386cc Lloyd engine from 1954/5. and further guess who has a spare engine  watch out for any speed attempts . unfortunately Deutsche Kleinwagen tells me to only expect 13 hp and 110km/hour .

[steven mandell]

Hi Steven, What is the car out of interest?

I thought you'd never ask.
Why its the Badsey Bullet prototype of course!  , .