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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2015, 08:45:39 PM »
no problem Dave it was a nice interesting photo with lots of leads to follow , I had not spotted the Frisky advert before , but had seen it in the list in the window 
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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2015, 10:01:54 PM »
What is the vehicle that the mechanic is leaning on?
Busmar Astral double-adult motorcycle sidecar:


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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2015, 07:47:04 AM »
That's the one Andrew! Such a familiar sight back in the day!
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2015, 08:31:32 AM »
One forgets the lack of ability to buy a car back in those days. One of the best bits about ON THE BUSES was the motorbike and sidecar, but it was not at all unusual in the preceding decade. Cars have nigh on reach throw away now. Dual fuel Citroen local. No one wants it for £250!
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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2015, 11:54:21 AM »
I like this guy using his similarly-sized Gemini double-adult sidecar as a mini-caravan for attending bike rallies:


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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2015, 12:09:06 PM »
Nice!
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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2015, 07:22:02 PM »
 Do any of these have suspensions?
Has anyone added one more wheel and a drive train to any of these?
That would make for some really cool micro cars. :D

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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2015, 09:43:45 AM »
Dear Steve

Almost all of the side car frames had suspension on the third wheel and some German and Russian combinations had a power take off from the back wheel to the third wheel. Mostly for military use, but the drive to the third wheel can make it more difficult to drive on a tarmac road, especially when turning left and right as the third wheel needs to go much faster or slower than the main driven wheel. Also the size of the third wheel had to be the same size as the main driven wheel, which often they were not. So power to the third wheel should only be used off road.

Driving a motor bike with a sidecar is a whole different experience to driving a normal motorcycle or a car.

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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2015, 01:42:19 PM »
The easiest conversion is to just move the controls from the motorcycle into the sidecar to make an unusual micro (often by bikers who have been injured).  There was even a Yahoo Group for people doing this (TwoWheelsInLine) but it seems to be dormant nowadays.

The thing most commented on by those that do this is the problem other road users have in asking them if they knew their motorcycle rider has fallen off....

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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2015, 05:19:15 PM »
---and the famous Skeleton driving the reduced 2CV based sidecar. Brilliant.
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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2015, 06:36:46 PM »
Indeed, it would take a radical re engineering of the side car chassis to successfully accommodate a useful powertrain and another 2 or 3 wheels.
Could make for some very interesting machines if one could overcome these obstacles for the very same reasons that they are so
appealing in the first place.  That is that the designers of these sidecars were enabled to remain relatively true to their stylistic whims when completing their creation.
This was due to their being free from the constraints imposed by having to successfully incorporate the other mechanical contrivances needed to allow stand alone functionality in the first place.
So a challenge indeed.
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2015, 10:37:40 PM »
I may be a purist but a Motorcycle with a side car is good enough, why spoil it. If you want a car buy a car.

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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2015, 04:20:17 AM »
Such overly simplified advise stifles the source of creativity needed to inspire innovation.
If all would be and actual vehicle designers limited their vision to what was already accepted as the norm, there would be fewer interesting vehicles to tantalize our senses.

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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2015, 10:02:30 AM »
I think that happened, Steve. Now you copy an old design, shove it through a cad programme and 3d print it. Drag it round a few shows, webpage and hey presto, nice job making boring boxes for the World Clart Company as you look awfully clever. Alternatively do not bother with the difficult bit, make a set of images on the website and bullshit. Then why bother with a job, just collect money from interested people, knowing your never going to build it. What can possibly go wrong?

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Re: Frisky advert - how can you focus ?
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2015, 10:19:42 AM »
Haven't we ended up discussing the Scott Sociable again by a round-about route?  Isn't that really a sidecar combination with in-sidecar control?